[Magdalen] Lubitz.

[Marion Thompson]

Gosh, thanks, Esther!  What did Robbie Burns say?  'O, would the Power 
the giftie gie us, Tae see ourselves as others see us' -- or something 
like that.

Marion, a pilgrim

On 3/30/2015 1:44 PM, Esther Williamson wrote:
> Marian the Peacemaker,
>
> I am always impressed with your ability to 'make nice', 'cut to the 
> chase', and smooth things over. You have such a wonderful and calming 
> way about you. You are good for this list.
>
> Esther
>
>
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> On 3/29/2015 3:30 PM, Marion Thompson wrote:
>> Poor Allan, every infrequent time he ventures into the Pub, there's 
>> always someone to smack him down.  I think his own tragic family 
>> experience and long-life experience should inform us that it is not 
>> his intention to trvialize or ridicule.
>>
>> Marion, a pilgrim
>>
>> On 3/29/2015 10:09 AM, Grace Cangialosi wrote:
>>> Allan,
>>> I'm not disagreeing with anything you're saying, just with the use 
>>> of the term "wacko." To me that trivializes and ridicules what is a 
>>> tragic illness.
>>> It's like calling someone who is developmentally challenged a "retard."
>>>
>>> YMMV, of course.
>>>
>>>> On Mar 29, 2015, at 3:00 AM, Allan Carr <allanc25 at gmail.comke > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If he hadn't been mentally iill, he wouldn't have have murdered 150 
>>>> people.
>>>> I've had three depressed people in my family commit suicide. It 
>>>> happens,
>>>> and should not be ignored in a pilot's evaluation out of political
>>>> correctness. As in this case, many lives may be at stake. Don't 
>>>> their lives
>>>> matter?
>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, March 28, 2015, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So "mentally Ill" = "wacko"
>>>>> Got it.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 28, 2015, at 6:31 PM, Allan Carr <allanc25 at gmail.com
>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With all respect, someone who deliberately flies an airplane with 
>>>>>> 150
>>>>>> people in it into a mountain is fully wacko according to the several
>>>>>> dictionaries I've just read "A person regarded as eccentric or
>>>>> irrational:"
>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Grace Cangialosi 
>>>>>> <gracecan at gmail.com
>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David,
>>>>>>> With all due respect, I cringed at your description of Lubitz as a
>>>>> "wacko
>>>>>>> copilot."
>>>>>>> If the emerging reports are correct, he  appears to have had a 
>>>>>>> history
>>>>> of
>>>>>>> depression, which is a disease that can have tragic consequences 
>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>> individual and those around him/her, as we have seen again and 
>>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Responsible for his actions? Yes. Irresponsible in tearing up 
>>>>>>> doctor's
>>>>>>> notes and hiding his illness? Yes.
>>>>>>> "Wacko"? No.  Tragic would be more apt, I think.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 28, 2015, at 1:19 PM, Cantor03--- via Magdalen <
>>>>>>>> magdalen at herberthouse.org <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have been curious about this name, so I did some checking.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since Poland and Germany have been side by side and there has
>>>>>>>> been much flip-flop of boundaries between them through the 
>>>>>>>> centuries,
>>>>>>>> it's no surprise that there are German names that have been 
>>>>>>>> used by
>>>>>>>> families who are Polish for centuries, and vice versa.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is probably the case with the wacko copilot of the recent 
>>>>>>>> plane
>>>>>>> crash
>>>>>>>> in the French Alps.  His name has a Slavic ending "itz" which 
>>>>>>>> is  the
>>>>>>>> German/Polish equivalent of -icz, -ich, and -age. These are all
>>>>> Slavic
>>>>>>>> endings that roughly equate to "son of" (Who can forget blonde 
>>>>>>>> beauty
>>>>>>>> newscaster Jessica Savage?).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Despite the Slavic origin of the "itz" names, the "itz" did 
>>>>>>>> not  hinder
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> career of the famous Admiral Doenitz before and during WW-2.
>>>>>>>> He was Commander in Chief of the German Navy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then there was the second German warship of the Bismarck Class,
>>>>>>>> the Tirpitz - "The Lonely Queen of the North" - also named after a
>>>>>>>> German Admiral who commanded the German Navy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A lot of history is buried in our names.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David Strang.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Allan Carr
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Allan Carr
>>> .
>>>
>>
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