[Magdalen] Michigan & the UP....Re: Time is -- uh ....

[Lynn Ronkainen]

From: "Grace Cangialosi" <gracecan at gmail.com>
> Lynn, how did the UP end up as part of Michigan instead of 
> Wisconsin?https://yoopersteez.com/post/why-the-upper-peninsula-is-not-part-of-wisconsin

a quick look:
On June 15, 1836, President Andrew Jackson signed a bill that first 
recognized Michigan as a state. However, Michigan would have to concede the 
Toledo Strip to Ohio, but was given the western three quarters of the Upper 
Peninsula in return (most of which borders Wisconsin along the Menominee 
River).

At first, Michigan rejected the offer partly out of pride and feeling that 
the Upper Peninsula was a worthless region. As their financial crisis 
lingered on they would have been left out of surplus government money if 
they had remained a territory rather than a state. Michigan accepted the 
terms in December in Ann Arbor.

When the Toledo War ended it was considered that Ohio had "won". This belief 
changed in the 1840s when it was discovered that the Upper Peninsula was a 
vast region of resources including copper and iron ore. Considered to have 
produced more mineral wealth than the California Gold Rush, the Upper 
Peninsula supplied 90% of the United States copper supply by the 1860s and 
was the largest supplier of iron ore by the 1890s.

Had Michigan won the Toledo War they would have acquire the Toledo Strip, 
meaning that the Upper Peninsula probably would have become a part of the 
Wisconsin Territory and later a part of the State of Wisconsin.

Michigan was finally admitted into the Union on January 26, 1837 as the 26th 
state with the Upper Peninsula included.

..

Quite frankly, I'm pretty stoked that Michigan has the 16,452 square mile 
paradise of the Upper Peninsula rather than the 468 square mile region of 
the Toledo Strip. Clearly I'm biased, but I think we clearly got the better 
deal.

All you history buffs out there let me know if there is more info I should 
include.


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When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have not a 
single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave me." 
attributed to Erma Bombeck
 "Either Freedom for all or stop talking about Freedom at all" from a talk 
by Richard Rohr

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From: "Grace Cangialosi" <gracecan at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 7:15 PM
To: <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Time is -- uh ....

> Lynn, how did the UP end up as part of Michigan instead of Wisconsin?
>
>> On Nov 2, 2015, at 7:27 PM, "Lynn Ronkainen" <houstonklr at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> The UP/upper peninsula is the 'other' part of Michigan that is located 
>> between the Lakes Superior, Michigan and the top of Huron and between the 
>> state of Wisconsin to the west and  Canada to the east.
>>
>> Isle Royal, almost to the Canadian Shore, in Lake Superior, is also part 
>> of Michigan. It is reachable by plane, ferry and private boat and is a 
>> State Park (famous for its study of wolves and moose). It is used for 
>> camping and most people 'pack' in and hike various trails across or 
>> around the island after they have been delivered by ferry or plane. 
>> There are a few cabins 'for rent' at the main boat landing point which 
>> require reservations which are sometimes doled out via a lottery system.
>>
>> Mackinac Island is also part of Michigan and located in the northern part 
>> of Lake Huron. It has no cars (with the exception of an EMC - emergency 
>> vehicle) and although open year round sees most of it's tourist traffic 
>> in summer and fall. People ride bikes there, and there are horse and 
>> buggy 'taxis'. There is a State Park there also in the footprint of a 
>> Fort from the American Revolution and the French and Indian wars (IIRC).
>>
>> Most of the UP is on Central time, but the counties that are closest to 
>> Wisconsin are not.
>>
>> Lynn
>>
>> website: www.ichthysdesigns.com
>>
>> When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have 
>> not a single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You 
>> gave me." attributed to Erma Bombeck
>> "Either Freedom for all or stop talking about Freedom at all" from a talk 
>> by Richard Rohr
>>
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>> From: "Roger Stokes" <roger.stokes65 at btinternet.com>
>> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 5:11 PM
>> To: <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Time is -- uh ....
>>
>>>> On 02/11/2015 20:09, Cantor03--- via Magdalen wrote:
>>>> In a message dated 11/2/2015 2:21:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>>> houstonklr at gmail.com writes:
>>>>
>>>> in  Michigan's UP dusk following sunset in the summer, on the 'west 
>>>> coast'
>>>> can  still be pink-horizon at 10;30  pm!
>>>> Lynn>>>>>>>>
>>>>  Talk about strange hours for sunlight:  Only the four southwestern  UP
>>>> counties are in the Central Zone.
>>>
>>> Translation please, UP?  Is that the bit of Michigan which is North of 
>>> Wisconsin on the West side of Lake Michigan?
>>>
>>> Roger
>>