[Magdalen] Michigan & the UP....Re: Time is -- uh ....

Tue Nov 3 02:12:32 UTC 2015

Very interesting, Lynn--thanks!  I've only been to the UP once, years ago
when we went to North Dakota to visit my father's family.  I remember going
through the locks in Sault Ste. Marie--this was before the bridge--and a
trip, I think, to an old iron mine. Is there a place called Iron
Mountain? What I remember most is that after we got inside, the guide
turned out the lights briefly so we could experience the total darkness.We
did!

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Lynn Ronkainen <houstonklr at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: "Grace Cangialosi" <gracecan at gmail.com>
>
>> Lynn, how did the UP end up as part of Michigan instead of Wisconsin?
>> https://yoopersteez.com/post/why-the-upper-peninsula-is-not-part-of-wisconsin
>>
>
> a quick look:
> On June 15, 1836, President Andrew Jackson signed a bill that first
> recognized Michigan as a state. However, Michigan would have to concede the
> Toledo Strip to Ohio, but was given the western three quarters of the Upper
> Peninsula in return (most of which borders Wisconsin along the Menominee
> River).
>
> At first, Michigan rejected the offer partly out of pride and feeling that
> the Upper Peninsula was a worthless region. As their financial crisis
> lingered on they would have been left out of surplus government money if
> they had remained a territory rather than a state. Michigan accepted the
> terms in December in Ann Arbor.
>
> When the Toledo War ended it was considered that Ohio had "won". This
> belief changed in the 1840s when it was discovered that the Upper Peninsula
> was a vast region of resources including copper and iron ore. Considered to
> have produced more mineral wealth than the California Gold Rush, the Upper
> Peninsula supplied 90% of the United States copper supply by the 1860s and
> was the largest supplier of iron ore by the 1890s.
>
> Had Michigan won the Toledo War they would have acquire the Toledo Strip,
> meaning that the Upper Peninsula probably would have become a part of the
> Wisconsin Territory and later a part of the State of Wisconsin.
>
> Michigan was finally admitted into the Union on January 26, 1837 as the
> 26th state with the Upper Peninsula included.
>
> ..
>
> Quite frankly, I'm pretty stoked that Michigan has the 16,452 square mile
> paradise of the Upper Peninsula rather than the 468 square mile region of
> the Toledo Strip. Clearly I'm biased, but I think we clearly got the better
> deal.
>
> All you history buffs out there let me know if there is more info I should
> include.
>
>
> website: www.ichthysdesigns.com
>
> When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have not
> a single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave me."
> attributed to Erma Bombeck
> "Either Freedom for all or stop talking about Freedom at all" from a talk
> by Richard Rohr
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Grace Cangialosi" <gracecan at gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 7:15 PM
> To: <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Time is -- uh ....
>
> Lynn, how did the UP end up as part of Michigan instead of Wisconsin?
>>
>> On Nov 2, 2015, at 7:27 PM, "Lynn Ronkainen" <houstonklr at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The UP/upper peninsula is the 'other' part of Michigan that is located
>>> between the Lakes Superior, Michigan and the top of Huron and between the
>>> state of Wisconsin to the west and  Canada to the east.
>>>
>>> Isle Royal, almost to the Canadian Shore, in Lake Superior, is also part
>>> of Michigan. It is reachable by plane, ferry and private boat and is a
>>> State Park (famous for its study of wolves and moose). It is used for
>>> camping and most people 'pack' in and hike various trails across or around
>>> the island after they have been delivered by ferry or plane. There are a
>>> few cabins 'for rent' at the main boat landing point which require
>>> reservations which are sometimes doled out via a lottery system.
>>>
>>> Mackinac Island is also part of Michigan and located in the northern
>>> part of Lake Huron. It has no cars (with the exception of an EMC -
>>> emergency vehicle) and although open year round sees most of it's tourist
>>> traffic in summer and fall. People ride bikes there, and there are horse
>>> and buggy 'taxis'. There is a State Park there also in the footprint of a
>>> Fort from the American Revolution and the French and Indian wars (IIRC).
>>>
>>> Most of the UP is on Central time, but the counties that are closest to
>>> Wisconsin are not.
>>>
>>> Lynn
>>>
>>> website: www.ichthysdesigns.com
>>>
>>> When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have
>>> not a single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave
>>> me." attributed to Erma Bombeck
>>> "Either Freedom for all or stop talking about Freedom at all" from a
>>> talk by Richard Rohr
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Roger Stokes" <roger.stokes65 at btinternet.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 5:11 PM
>>> To: <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Time is -- uh ....
>>>
>>> On 02/11/2015 20:09, Cantor03--- via Magdalen wrote:
>>>>> In a message dated 11/2/2015 2:21:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>>>> houstonklr at gmail.com writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> in  Michigan's UP dusk following sunset in the summer, on the 'west
>>>>> coast'
>>>>> can  still be pink-horizon at 10;30  pm!
>>>>> Lynn>>>>>>>>
>>>>>  Talk about strange hours for sunlight:  Only the four southwestern  UP
>>>>> counties are in the Central Zone.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Translation please, UP?  Is that the bit of Michigan which is North of
>>>> Wisconsin on the West side of Lake Michigan?
>>>>
>>>> Roger
>>>>
>>>
>>>

-- 
Grace Cangialosi
Ruckersville, VA

*We must cry out against injustice or by our silence consent to it.
Dorothy Day*