[Magdalen] 21.5 stone...ugh

[Jay Weigel]

S/O's doc is of the anti sugar-and-carbs school. I'm a proponent of whole
foods, clean eating, and moderation in all things (how very Anglican of
me!) and IMNSHO, S/O is doing better on that. We don't do sugar because of
the diabetes business, but carbs aren't a no-no, we're just careful about
quantities and types. And we even enjoy the odd "free day"...birthdays,
Christmas, New Year's, Thanksgiving, Easter, Valentine's Day and once in
awhile (not often) I will declare one. That happens about once in 3 months
or so.

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Sally Davies <sally.davies at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Well, I'm for both approaches, but not necessarily every day. Two strict
> days of BOTH low carb AND low calorie meals per week, suffices. One has to
> be careful on the other days but need not be too concerned about the "diet
> rules" or an occasional special treat.
>
> South African has gone "Banting" crazy under the influence of Professor Tim
> Noakes, who was a household name as a sports scientist before he decided to
> take on the Establishment regarding diet and health.
>
> I don't like eating that way well enough to keep it up indefinitely but can
> usually manage it for my two "diet days".
>
> I've actually come to appreciate my diet days, especially if I can achieve
> a state of running on ketone bodies rather than accumulated glycogen/sugar
> stores. It is this (apparently) that confers the many health benefits over
> and above weight loss, that were featured in the original research behind
> this way of life.
>
> People think it's nuts but it works for me and nothing else ever has!!
>
> There are some fantastic recipes (calorie controlled) in the Fast Diet
> Cookbook:
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/The-FastDiet-Cookbook-Delicious-Calorie-Controlled/dp/1476749868
>
> ...though these days, despite having bought the above, I most just eat fish
> and salad on diet days while fasting completely for as long as I reasonably
> can.
>
> To lose weight steadily, you have to show some discipline on the other days
> as well but once you're down to the goal weight it's not hard to stay
> there. It might be easier for men to lose weight on any eating plan than it
> is for us women.
>
> Sally D
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 24, 2015, Scott Knitter <scottknitter at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Jon Egger <revegger at gmail.com
> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > > Seriously, try the Weight Watchers Men's program.  It's based on points
> > and
> > > there are lots of free points.  Dawn lost over 70 pounds on it.
> >
> > I probably will do this; I've lost weight (the same 25 pounds a couple
> > of times) on WW and value the way they inform and encourage. It does
> > work. We had a very good WW leader run a group at our office when I
> > worked in Lansing, Michigan. I wonder if WW has some different
> > "flavors" of plans, like one that's reduced-carb. One thing that has
> > helped me procrastinate on starting a program is the ongoing fight
> > between the calories-in-calories-out approach (classic WW) and the
> > sugar-and-carbs-are-the-problem approach. Sure wish they'd meet in an
> > arena and have a research smackdown so we know what's really the right
> > way to go.
> >
> > --
> > Scott R. Knitter
> > Edgewater, Chicago, Illinois USA
> >
>