[Magdalen] "Failing" parishes--Canada vs. USA

[Susan Hagen]

Since we were talking about multiple parishes I should have said
Woodstock is Shelia's parish.
Susan

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Susan Hagen <susanvhagen at gmail.com> wrote:
> That is my friend Shelia's parish and there are some lovely people
> there.  I don't think they have a real interim yet.
> Susan
>
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I liked the folks in Woodstock a lot. I certainly hope they find a priest
>> soon. It's awful being in limbo, as it were. My parish in TN is still
>> there, although they have a great interim now who, I think, is finally
>> getting the mess straightened out that the last full time rector left.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oops!! I didn't read far enough!! For some reason, I thought you were
>>> saying who your interim was, Mike. I'm glad to hear Kathy is still in Luray.
>>>
>>> As to your question about a priest in Luray, Jay, I was referring to Scott
>>> Dillard, who has retired there. I think he may have supplied at the two
>>> churches I couldn't help last month; I had given them his name. He would be
>>> a good person for their interim, but I don't know if he'd have the energy.
>>> I know I don't.
>>>
>>> Sorry for the confusion...
>>>
>>> > On Nov 23, 2015, at 11:16 PM, "Mahoney, W. Michael" <
>>> wmmah at stoneledge.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Yup.  Cathy Tibbets.
>>> >
>>> > Good priest.
>>> >
>>> > Mike M
>>> >
>>> >> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:54 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I thought Luray had a female priest. At least when I looked at their
>>> >> website that was the impression I got. I'm so confused.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Do you know his name? What will they do this winter? I wouldn't mind
>>> >> doing
>>> >>> some supply over there, though there is a priest in Luray who could do
>>> >> it,
>>> >>> and he's much closer.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> On Nov 23, 2015, at 10:49 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> They do. The priest that has been doing it has taken a hiatus for the
>>> >>>> winter, saying he's too old to manage the roads. He preached a
>>> >> rip-roarer
>>> >>>> of a sermon on Sunday.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:47 PM, Grace Cangialosi <
>>> gracecan at gmail.com
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> Jay, those parishes have been yoked for at least 30 years. They used
>>> >> to
>>> >>>>> have that crazy, alternating Sunday morning schedule, too.
>>> >>>>> Woodstock-Mt.Jackson-Woodstock. Do they still do that?
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On Nov 23, 2015, at 10:34 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> I don't know how long Beckford Parish in VA (Woodstock and Mt.
>>> >> Jackson)
>>> >>>>> has
>>> >>>>>> been yoked. There are a number of Lutheran and Methodist parishes
>>> >>>>>> hereabouts that are yoked also. It wasn't uncommon among the
>>> >> Methodists
>>> >>>>> in
>>> >>>>>> TN either, but then, it never has been with them, where it was
>>> called
>>> >>>>>> "circuit riding" or a "circuit" and lay people picked up the slack.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Raewynne Whiteley <
>>> >>> raewynne1 at gmail.com>
>>> >>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Re yoking parishes, my observation is that it is doomed to failure,
>>> >>>>> because
>>> >>>>>>> it tends to prioritize building over ministry - they keep the
>>> >>> buildings
>>> >>>>> and
>>> >>>>>>> the administrative structures, but expect a single priest to serve
>>> 2
>>> >>> or
>>> >>>>>>> more parishes, and in most cases parishioners expect to get
>>> >> everything
>>> >>>>> they
>>> >>>>>>> had before for half the money.  Which is a recipe for burnout for
>>> >> the
>>> >>>>>>> priest, and doesn't encourage the parish to be realistic about
>>> their
>>> >>>>> life
>>> >>>>>>> and ministry.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com
>>> >
>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Clarissa's prayer request led me to wonder about the varying
>>> >> position
>>> >>>>> of
>>> >>>>>>>> TEC vs. the Anglican Church in Canada regarding what are
>>> considered
>>> >>>>>>>> "failing" parishes. Marion's recent experience, too, has made me
>>> >>>>> wonder.
>>> >>>>>>> I
>>> >>>>>>>> realize it varies from diocese to diocese, but ISTM that the
>>> >> Canadian
>>> >>>>>>>> church, at least in these instances, is behaving far more like the
>>> >>> RCC
>>> >>>>> in
>>> >>>>>>>> abruptly closing these churches or pretty much setting them up to
>>> >>> fail
>>> >>>>>>> (in
>>> >>>>>>>> the case of Marion's) rather than encouraging them along or
>>> >> "yoking"
>>> >>>>>>> them.
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Am I seeing things correctly, or is this a misperception?
>>> >>
>>>
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