[Magdalen] A gun control legislation conversation.

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A recent post in the "Margaret and Helen" series notes, IIRC, that if abortion involved guns the Republicans in Congress would be in favor of abortion.
 
---- Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote: 
> I am a frequent reader of, and sometime contributor to, Daily Kos. Here's a
> pretty good article on the subject from yesterday that very much pertains
> to that issue. They guy supports Mike's arguments pretty persuasively,
> being himself a gun owner Another diary on the recent shooting, please read
> I think it is worth it.
> <http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/02/1426935/-Another-diary-on-the-recent-shooting-please-read-I-think-it-is-worth-it>
> 
> I personally think guns should be treated pretty much like
> automobiles....licensed, regulated, and insured. No license and no
> insurance, you're in the doghouse.....and furthermore, you can't operate
> one below a certain age. And they'd better be locked up away from kids
> while not in use or you are in serious trouble.
> 
> On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 1:33 AM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
> oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I think that's well put.
> >
> > James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> > *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
> > except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 11:45 PM, M J [Mike] Logsdon <mjl at ix.netcom.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Nothing bad, but I'm genuinely surprised.  My lead and co-worker, J,
> > > responded to yesterday's news with the horrible saw of "Gun control laws
> > > won't stop this from happening."  As her elder, as a master of the
> > English
> > > language (sic sic sic), and as a priest, she definitely listens to what I
> > > say.  I didn't disagree with her.  What I did say was along the lines of
> > > "Even Obama says we obviously can't stop the lone wolves totally.  But
> > > since gun control leglisation has nothing to do with second amendment
> > > rights (which, by the way, are not about the right to carry
> > semi-automatic
> > > killing machines into local restaurants just because some states say you
> > > can), we HAVE to start somewhere, in order to catch up to the STARTING
> > > POINT of other civilised countries -- and by the way, that means all of
> > > them -- and at least make gun ownership as bothersome yet doable as
> > > everything else we take for granted.  We have the right to own and drive
> > a
> > > car, but not without a license and insurance.  You and I enforce
> > floodplain
> > > regulations, which many consider a "taking", but our answer is always
> > that
> > > they are in place to preserve and protect against unmanaged and damaging
> > > development in areas that could otherwise become death traps during even
> > > minor flooding events.  It's not about guns.  It's about requiring every
> > > member of the body politic to behave in a way that remembers that without
> > > said laws, asshol*s get these high-powered killing sticks and shoot up
> > > elementary schools much easier than without them.  Sum it up as having
> > your
> > > president come into the White House press room to talk about such things,
> > > every other month or so, instead of what feels like, and often is,
> > actually
> > > every month.  Obama knows he'll have to do it again.  But he doesn't want
> > > to keep his notes in his pocket so as to be ready at the drop of a hat."
> > >
> > > She more or less got the point.
> > >
> >