[Magdalen] Heather Cook

[Molly Wolf]

I'm with Ginga on this. I'm still struggling with the "don't feel, don't trust" aspect.  Very difficult.

I don't see the point of a longer sentence for Heather Cook.  Seven years will give her time to make amends and accept responsibility; more time wouldn't increase this.  Long prison sentences are pretty pointless and serve only as revenge.  

Molly

The man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way. -- Mark Twain

> On Oct 28, 2015, at 7:21 PM, Ginga Wilder <gingawilder at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, our diocese will set a more thoughtful alcohol policy at the
> convention next month.  I don't think it will be very strong.  Our parish
> will set a policy following the diocesan convention.  I don't think that
> will be strong either.  We have had some conversation already and a bit of
> controversy.
> 
> The alcoholic system, be it a family, a church, or any sort of
> 'family-type' system is set to keep secrets.  It's in the DNA and also in
> the 'don't talk, don't feel, and don't trust' rules embedded in the
> alcoholic, etc.system.  Breaking these crazy making rules is very
> difficult, especially when it means telling the truth, naming the
> dysfunction, and confronting the one with the most obvious problem.  But,
> the truth is that the entire system is sick with denial and doing the same
> damn thing over and over and blaming everyone else, rather than owning
> responsibility for how we contribute to the sickness.
> 
> Um...stepping off the soap box.
> Ginga
> 
>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:45 PM, ME Michaud <michaudme at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I agree, but also know it's hard for people to push their information up
>> the line. We've been taught to stay quiet about alcohol abuse. Before I
>> worked at the hospital I would have worried in silence, too. But that's not
>> the right way to move forward.
>> 
>> Our diocese is preparing discussions and classes (much like the classes on
>> abuse they required after the crisis in the archdiocese). Can't come soon
>> enough IMO.
>> -M
>> 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, October 28, 2015, Ginga Wilder <gingawilder at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> THIS is a real crime and damn shame.  It is also part of the denial in a
>>> sick system acriss the church.
>>