[Magdalen] Heather Cook

[Sibyl Smirl]

The Lakota have an interesting ancient (pre-Europeanizing, at least) 
custom or procedure relevant to this, actually rather Christian, except 
that it wasn't in the name of Christ, but more like a social adaptation. 
  I think that I remember Jeffry+ talking about at least one instance of 
it in modern times.  I'll be talking in masculine terms, since that's 
how I heard it, and males had different obligations and rights in the 
(extended: tio-spa-ye) family than females.  If one man was responsible 
for the death of another, whether something like directly killing him in 
a fight, or just "accidental", the family of the dead person would 
literally adopt him in place of the missing person, and he would then 
have all the rights and _OBLIGATIONS_ that the dead man had had, 
including "financial" (or hunting, or whatever) support to the whole 
family.  I think the forgiveness aspect of that might be kind of hard to 
do....


On 10/29/15 9:17 AM, Jay Weigel wrote:
> No, more like service or slavery to the family of the person she killed. In
> this case, the family is reported to be in severe financial need.
> Therefore, a large financial settlement would be part of the restoration.
> And you chose to disregard the other part, about a menial job in the ER
> (which would include cleaning up the blood and guts, and other scut  work).
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Jim Guthrie <jguthrie at pipeline.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Jay Weigel
>>
>> On the other hand, restorative justice would, at least to me, demand that
>>> Heather Cook be liable for a rather large sum of money to Tom Palermo's
>>>
>>
>> Ah, the three sheep and five goats for your loss system of justice, eh? I
>> realize were fighting in Afghanistan to preserve that way of life, but I;m
>> not sure we need to adopt it here as a consequence
>>
>> Don's post, I think is right on point, as was Jim Oppenheimer's yesterday.
>>
>> As you know, I think the smarmiest people in the world are those with a
>> DSM at home who like to pull it out and do amateur diagnoses, so I don’t
>> want to get too deep into this, but . . .
>>
>> I some of the desire to "throw the book" at Heather Cook here reflective
>> more of her betrayal, as TEC people who love value a range of things about
>> our church and its people?
>>
>> Obviously,it's not about justice for Heather Cook. Id she were treated
>> like others in her circumstance, it would be far more likely she'd get five
>> years of probation than a 20 years sentence and 13 years probation.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jim Guthrie


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