[Magdalen] A little parish in the shadow of the Empire Sta

Joseph Cirou romanos at mindspring.com
Thu Sep 17 16:49:26 UTC 2015


It could be that Egan was so unpopular that anyone looked better!

I never thought much of O'Connor until my friend started singing his praises.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
>From: Jim Guthrie <jguthrie at pipeline.com>
>Sent: Sep 16, 2015 10:13 PM
>To: magdalen at herberthouse.org
>Subject: Re: [Magdalen] A little parish in the shadow of the Empire Sta
>
>From: Joseph Cirou
>
>>I have a gay friend in New York, and he was always singing the praises of 
>>Cardinal O'Connor
>
>Maybe your friend was a veteran of Cardinal Spellman's pied a terre in Brooklyn 
>?? <g>.
>
>Seriously, O'Connor and Bishop +Moore were often sparring over issues, 
>especially when O'Connor presumed to speak for "All Christians." I remember an 
>incident where O'Connor was on video at a hearing that was played during one of 
>NYC's TV News programs, and he grabbed a cab and was asking to speak at the 
>hearing first off in the afternoon session. He tore O'Connor's presumptiveness 
>to shreds, with good humor and charm.
>
>But he was always saying things contradicting O'Connor, and at some point, The 
>Post started calling +Moore for reaction to O'Connor, and vice versa. It was 
>probably the only time that a TEC Bishop was upfront about defending TEC and its 
>differences in the press. Pretty much every other TEC Bishop has dived under the 
>bed when confronted with major media. And unlike +Moore (and O'Connor, for that 
>matter) who understood the value of a good sound bite, out other bishops when 
>forced prattle on in ways that turn out to be unintelligible when preaching the 
>Gospel via the media.
>
>>The other things I heard are very favorable especially how he really knew his 
>>priests and would be inquiring about the family etc etc etc.
>
>O'Connor also had a literal deathbed conversion on the issue of including 
>lesbian and gay folk in a proposed NYC Hate Crimes Law that the Diocese had been 
>fighting tooth and nail.
>
>>Compared to his immediate successor he was very well liked.
>
>Many thought of him as something of a schmuck, as they say in NYC <g>.
>
>Cheers,
>Jim
>





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