[Magdalen] No more attacks on Tim Kaine's faith | FaithfulAmerica

[Marion Thompson]

I'm sorry you had this hurtful impersonal dismissive experience. I shake 
my head at the disinterested treatment people too often receive from the 
Church in their time of need.  All form and no substance, no genuine 
sense of obligation to be pastoral.

Hugs,

Marion, a pilgrim


On 8/1/2016 6:07 PM, Lynn Ronkainen wrote:
> along the lines of the RC being *mystifying*...
> The RC churches that have intersected my life in recent decades 
> completely befuddle me....
>
> I attended 9am mass this morning because 2 months ago I received a 
> formal 'Mass card' in the mail from "the Senior Friends" group at my 
> mom's church, sent to me by one of the members of the group. The mass 
> card indicated that on this date, at 9am, the rector (who was too tied 
> up to officiate at my mom's memorial) was going to be the celebrant, 
> and the mass was being offered in my mom's memory, and had been 
> dedicated so, on the card, by the Senior's group of which she was a 
> member. I did not want to miss this especially because I knew the 
> group had gone out of their way to do this for my mom, and I also 
> thought it was nice that the rector was going to be the celebrant 
> after he could not be at my mom's memorial service.
>
> Mass cards usually are given in the name of someone or in 
> thanksgiving, and usually a monetary donation is included by the giver 
> to the church or the clergy person who will say the mass. That is how 
> I understood them from when my father died in 1975 and on several 
> other occasions that touched my life in this manner since then.  I 
> went to church today, and the only service was the 9am daily 
> mass-as-usual. The rector no where in sight. My mom's name was in the 
> prayers but without definition. I am in the process of getting over this.
>
> A month after my mom's memorial service I received a form letter in 
> the mail from mom's church - the envelope was addressed to me, the 
> salutation on the letter and the reference to my deceased family 
> member were completely un-personalized. The letter was an invitation 
> to participate, at no cost, in a 6 week long bereavement group.   I 
> naturally thought that people at this church must be dying over there 
> in droves for the level of distance and insensitivity I experienced 
> with this invitation.
>
> I am keeping myself from writing a note to the rector telling him I  
> missed him this morning..... : (
>
> Lynn, thankful instead for the caring religious communities and 
> individuals that I have known and have in  my life.
>
> website: www.ichthysdesigns.com
>
> When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have 
> not a single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You 
> gave me." attributed to Erma Bombeck
> "Either Freedom for all or stop talking about Freedom at all" from a 
> talk by Richard Rohr
>
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> From: "James Oppenheimer-Crawford" <oppenheimerjw at gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 3:53 PM
> To: "Magdalen at herberthouse.org" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] No more attacks on Tim Kaine's faith | 
> FaithfulAmerica
>
>> I wonder if they also were influenced by the fantasy that by being 
>> open and
>> accepting, they might erode their authority.
>>
>> Folks in the back ground pull the strings "If we do this, your authority
>> will be damaged." Hey, if The Holy Spirit has ever in fact given His
>> Holiness this Authority, then don't the faithful consider that maybe 
>> She's
>> able to take proper care of it, and all we have to do is accept?  
>> Nah, that
>> can't be right....
>>
>> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
>> *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not 
>> preserved,
>> except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Cantor03--- via Magdalen <
>> magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 7/31/2016 11:54:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> oppenheimerjw at gmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> The  Vatican ignored the recommendations of its panel because they 
>>> figured
>>> a
>>> rethinking -- no matter how justified -- would erode Papal authority.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rome is very good at this ignoring their own investigative panels.
>>> They did it twice in the matter of validity of Anglican Orders.
>>>
>>> Thus, on two occasions a RC panel set up to investigate Anglican
>>> Orders found the Anglicans to be valid but irregular.  On
>>> both occasions, the panel opinion was quietly buried away.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> David S.
>>>
>