[Magdalen] No more attacks on Tim Kaine's faith | FaithfulAmerica

[Judy Fleener]

The only pregnant member of our small parish suffered a miscarriage and was
hospitalized.  Our rector NEVER called on her.  I am staying away for a
month, but I do need to go back there.
Judy

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 10:57 AM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am deeply sorry for your loss, and your experience.  I wonder if your
> letter might be a good idea. It might cause someone to think about what
> they are doing. Then again, one might guess that they don't care. Then
> again, it might be that there's more to the full story.
>
> Why does the RCC seem to have this incredibly impersonal feel? Don't they
> follow Jesus? Don't they have any idea what Our Lord did in those hard
> moments?
>
> We were visiting the Long Island area and it happened that my relatives
> lived there and attended a church, Blessed Mary, Help of Christians, so my
> resourceful spouse ascertained that this parish is still there, and we
> resolved to visit it. I've seen a lot of churches, and I certainly did not
> expect what we found.
>
> Mary, Help of Christians is a huge room which I suppose ought to be called
> a nave, with stained glass windows (no details, no pictures, nothing). I
> remember it as being like a factory. My wife remembers the linoleum floor.
> It was not as if it was unused; there were a few people praying. But if
> they wanted to make a nasty anti-RCC movie, and intentionally put together
> a building designed to convey a complete lack of personality, they could
> not have done better than this place.  I had to get out of there.
>
> I recall Fr. Greeley often wrote of this trend in his church, and he
> obviously thought it was just dreadful.
>
> I read so much and hear so much of parishes with imported priests who do
> not have a good command of the English language, and I wonder if those few
> priests who actually have talent are stretched to the breaking point.
>
> Still, I suppose the old men in the Vatican, looking at RCC as far as they
> can see, just don't get it. Perhaps it is time for another reformation to
> save the dying RCC from itself. Perhaps it is far too late.  Not too late
> for God, of course -- just too late for this attempt...
>
> I lost my Mom just a year and a half ago at 99.  For her it was a very much
> overdo blessing, but it still hurts. Everything I am I literally owe to
> her. And that is no hyperbole.
>
> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
> except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
>
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 6:07 PM, Lynn Ronkainen <houstonklr at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > along the lines of the RC being *mystifying*...
> > The RC churches that have intersected my life in recent decades
> completely
> > befuddle me....
> >
> > I attended 9am mass this morning because 2 months ago I received a formal
> > 'Mass card' in the mail from "the Senior Friends" group at my mom's
> church,
> > sent to me by one of the members of the group.  The mass card indicated
> > that on this date, at 9am, the rector (who was too tied up to officiate
> at
> > my mom's memorial) was going to be the celebrant, and the mass was being
> > offered in my mom's memory, and had been dedicated so, on the card, by
> the
> > Senior's group of which she was a member. I did not want to miss this
> > especially because I knew the group had gone out of their way to do this
> > for my mom, and I also thought it was nice that the rector was going to
> be
> > the celebrant after he could not be at my mom's memorial service.
> >
> > Mass cards usually are given in the name of someone or in thanksgiving,
> > and usually a monetary donation is included by the giver to the church or
> > the clergy person who will say the mass. That is how I understood them
> from
> > when my father died in 1975 and on several other occasions that touched
> my
> > life in this manner since then.  I went to church today, and the only
> > service was the 9am daily mass-as-usual. The rector no where in sight. My
> > mom's name was in the prayers but without definition. I am in the process
> > of getting over this.
> >
> > A month after my mom's memorial service I received a form letter in the
> > mail from mom's church - the envelope was addressed to me, the salutation
> > on the letter and the reference to my deceased family member were
> > completely un-personalized. The letter was an invitation to participate,
> at
> > no cost, in a 6 week long bereavement group.   I naturally thought that
> > people at this church must be dying over there in droves for the level of
> > distance and insensitivity I experienced with this invitation.
> >
> > I am keeping myself from writing a note to the rector telling him I
> > missed him this morning..... : (
> >
> > Lynn, thankful instead for the caring religious communities and
> > individuals that I have known and have in  my life.
> >
> > website: www.ichthysdesigns.com
> >
> > When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have
> not
> > a single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave
> me."
> > attributed to Erma Bombeck
> > "Either Freedom for all or stop talking about Freedom at all" from a talk
> > by Richard Rohr
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > From: "James Oppenheimer-Crawford" <oppenheimerjw at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 3:53 PM
> > To: "Magdalen at herberthouse.org" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Magdalen] No more attacks on Tim Kaine's faith |
> > FaithfulAmerica
> >
> > I wonder if they also were influenced by the fantasy that by being open
> and
> >> accepting, they might erode their authority.
> >>
> >> Folks in the back ground pull the strings "If we do this, your authority
> >> will be damaged." Hey, if The Holy Spirit has ever in fact given His
> >> Holiness this Authority, then don't the faithful consider that maybe
> She's
> >> able to take proper care of it, and all we have to do is accept?  Nah,
> >> that
> >> can't be right....
> >>
> >> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> >> *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not
> preserved,
> >> except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Cantor03--- via Magdalen <
> >> magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> In a message dated 7/31/2016 11:54:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> >>> oppenheimerjw at gmail.com writes:
> >>>
> >>> The  Vatican ignored the recommendations of its panel because they
> >>> figured
> >>> a
> >>> rethinking -- no matter how justified -- would erode Papal  authority.
> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Rome is very good at this ignoring their own investigative panels.
> >>> They did it twice in the matter of validity of Anglican Orders.
> >>>
> >>> Thus, on two occasions a RC panel set up to investigate Anglican
> >>> Orders found the Anglicans to be valid but irregular.  On
> >>> both occasions, the panel opinion was quietly buried away.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> David S.
> >>>
> >>>
>



-- 
Judy Fleener, ObJN,SSH
Western Michigan