[Magdalen] Grrr....

Sat Aug 13 19:32:58 UTC 2016

Jim, this puts very well what I've been thinking, and I read something along this line a couple of weeks ago. The writer also noted that Hillary's approval rating were high when she was a actually * in* a particular position, but then they went down when she was promoted or aspired to a higher position--U.S. Senator, for example.
I wish I "liked" her better as a person, but I think that is irrelevant here. As for all of the "Crooked Hillary" smears and the constant accusations of lying, as you say, Jim, she hasn't been found guilty of any chargeable offense, and IIRC, she has admitted that her use of a private server was poor judgment, and she wouldn't do it again.  I've read several things pointing out that Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice had done the same thing, but that's never mentioned. Maybe because they belong to the right party.......?
In any case Donald Trump would be such a danger to our country--and, indeed, to the world--that I would vote for anyone who had a chance of keeping him from being elected.
Also, love her or hate her, Hillary is by far the most qualified person to be president, and that's what I want.
That's it--my last political statement on the election.
It was really nice having three days of silent retreat away from all this...

> On Aug 13, 2016, at 2:44 PM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> A lot of people have strong feelings about Hil, based on stuff they think
> they know.
> 
> I've mentioned that most of this boils down to the deep-structure bias that
> she's a woman aspiring to the highest office in the land and that is a
> mockery of all that is American. How dare she? And most folks who hold that
> position will vehemently deny that this is where they come from. But look
> at what they base their rage upon, and you generally have your answer.
> 
> "She's a liar!" As are we all. As are we all.  The question should be on
> what scale, and there, we also have an answer.
> 
> The best minds in the nation have invested MILLIONS of dollars in a SERIES
> of expeditions, inquiries, committees, etc., trying everything they can
> think of to show her to be that BIG liar, and the facts are clear: THEY
> FAILED.
> 
> You just ignore that and keep on. The GOP might not have been able to catch
> her out -- but **I** know the truth.   "The FBI cleared her? Well, see,
> that just means the FBI was in on it anyway."
> 
> For once in your dreary lives, listen to yourself.
> 
> See your bias for what it is, embrace it, and move on. We need to elect the
> best candidate. Nobody says we have to like them. Stop acting like this is
> some prom queen election.
> 
> I have no delusions about Hil.  She's a political animal. Would not be
> where she is today if she wasn't. Political animals shape the truth.  FDR
> did it. Lincoln did it. Eisenhower [fer cryin' out loud] did it. Washington
> did it.  Just be cause she's a woman, oh dear, we can't have THAT.
> 
> This has been stewing in my craw for some time, and I for one wish certain
> folks who darn well ought to know better would grow the frick up. I love
> you, you can be so obtuse.
> 
> 
> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
> except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
> 
>> On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 1:44 PM, Sibyl Smirl <polycarpa3 at ckt.net> wrote:
>> 
>> You know what, Molly?  I strongly dislike Hillary.  I have disliked her
>> ever since I became aware of her existence, probably somewhere along in the
>> eighties, more and more almost every time I hear of her.  I live about 40
>> miles from the NW corner of Arkansas, so I do hear a lot of the Arkansas
>> news, though much of it goes in one ear and out the other, leaving,
>> sometimes, vague impressions.  As a result of this growing dislike, I don't
>> think she's fit to be President of the US, and I tend to believe most of
>> the stuff I hear told about her, even though I'm aware that there are a lot
>> of plain lies about facts, as well as a lot of bias-flavored statements
>> kicking around this election, especially on Facebook, from all sides.
>> 
>> I won't be voting for her, not ever in my lifetime, until I'm part of the
>> Graveyard Vote, and if somebody votes for her then in my name, I'll be
>> certain to come back and haunt them if it's at all possible.
>> 
>> I do feel rather similarly about Trump, probably even more so, but that's
>> not relevant to this.  I'm crying for my country, for the likely prospects
>> ahead.  This is not an election in which to vote for the lesser of two
>> evils, when you consider that the evils are in such different directions
>> and types that it's hard to judge which is lesser.
>> 
>> At the present time, it's likely that I'll be voting for the Libertarian,
>> Gary Johnson,  or maybe the American Solidarity Party, which Albion favors,
>> whoever that is: I haven't checked up on him yet, and probably won't make a
>> final decision until November.  But if I'm alive, I _will_ be voting.  I
>> assume that couple from Ohio will be voting too.
>> 
>> I gather you'll be voting for Hillary?  I probably wouldn't sell you a
>> necklace of mine.  (There are a couple of things ironic or sarcastic or
>> something about this last paragraph: I'm not certain what the term would
>> be, but it's definitely negative).
>> 
>> Actually, I love you, and a lot of my friends like that woman, but this
>> post has been itching around under my skin ever since I first read it. I do
>> guarantee you that many of the negative things about Hillary are _not_
>> slander, they are perfectly true, because I observed them as they went by,
>> for more than 25 years now, long before this endless campaign was dreamed
>> of.  What bothers me about so many of her supporters is that they also know
>> all this stuff, and they don't _care_!  "What difference does it make?"
>> 
>> Grrrrrrrrrrrr!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8/2/16 9:19 PM, Molly Wolf wrote:
>>> 
>>> I need to whinge and fume.
>>> 
>>> As many of you know, I make jewelry (hi Jay!).  Unlike Jay, my stuff is
>>> strung beads.  I sell at a lovely shop in Alexandria Bay, NY, called Bay
>>> House, an artisans'/artists' co-operative.  I work shifts there, like
>>> most of the other members, and I was on duty this afternoon.
>>> 
>>> Last week, I took in a set I was especially happy with: rhombus
>>> (square-on-diagonal) cinnabar beads with Czech druk beads (glass) and
>>> seed beads:  necklace and matching earrings and bracelet.  I don't have
>>> a picture of it, more's the pity.  But it was a lovely little thing.  I
>>> sold it this afternoon to a couple from Ohio.
>>> 
>>> Normally, it's a joy to sell my stuff: partly to get it out of the shop
>>> so I can make more, and partly because it's like giving a kitten to a
>>> good home.  But while I was ringing up the sale, the buyers got into a
>>> conversation with other customers, about the current U.S. political
>>> scene, and it turned out they were ardent Hilary-slandering
>>> liberal-media-bashing frothing Trumpites. (Although even so, she
>>> expressed the wish that he'd shut his mouth. Dream on, lady.)
>>> 
>>> I am a professional.  I did not snatch my lovely little cinnabar set
>>> back from their undeserving hands and bellow "you can't have it!" I
>>> completed the sale, took their money, and bade them goodbye pleasantly.
>>> But I'm still fuming.
>>> 
>>> I just bought a whole bunch of those cinnabar beads from Panda Hall and
>>> I am going to recreate the set and sell it to someone who deserves it.
>>> So there.
>>> 
>>> Grrr.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Sibyl Smirl
>> I will take no bull from your house!  Psalms 50:9a
>> mailto:polycarpa3 at ckt.net
>> 