[Magdalen] One more liturgy post

[Joseph Cirou]

-----Original Message-----
>From: Marion Thompson <marionwhitevale at gmail.com>
>Sent: Dec 31, 2016 3:58 PM
>To: magdalen at herberthouse.org
>Subject: Re: [Magdalen] One more liturgy post
>
>Holy Name is a great preaching opportunity.
>
>Marion, a pilgrim
>
>
>On 12/31/2016 2:23 PM, ME Michaud wrote:
>> Not long ago I saw a translation of an Irish carol
>> in which Mary sings
>> Alleluia
>> to the infant Jesus.
>>
>> The trick is that she sings it as a lullaby.
>>
>> It was incredibly moving.
>> -M
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, Lynn, she did give me a choice, because they were getting the
>>> bulletin ready. She said her preference would be Holy Name, but I could
>>> choose, and I said that would be fine. Then she gave me the choice of the
>>> NT reading.
>>> When I'm only doing a Sunday or two, I assume the rector or vicar will
>>> pick readings and hymns. They almost always email me the bulletins the week
>>> before.
>>>
>>> And I confess that while she and I were emailing about this, I hadn't
>>> thought about the implications vis a vis the Gospel readings.
>>>
>>> But I've had a thought. If we look at both Gospel passages, we can get a
>>> glimpse of the whole human/divine aspect of Jesus: He was in the beginning,
>>> and he was also subject to the same human customs as any other Jewish baby.
>>>
>>> Some good possibilities there, I think.
>>>
>>>> On Dec 31, 2016, at 12:47 PM, "Lynn Ronkainen" <houstonklr at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I have often heard sermons that begin with a verse or several and the
>>> disclaimer from the preacher: "This is sometimes read on this day although
>>> it was not today ...."  then your intro + sermon.
>>>> I'm fascinated that a supply priest would be instructed to the n'th
>>> degree on readings - is that usual in most places, dioceses etc??
>>>> peace
>>>> Lynn
>>>>
>>>> website: www.ichthysdesigns.com
>>>>
>>>> When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have
>>> not a single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave
>>> me." attributed to Erma Bombeck
>>>> "Either Freedom for all or stop talking about Freedom at all" from a
>>> talk by Richard Rohr
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Grace Cangialosi" <gracecan at gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2016 11:33 AM
>>>> To: "Magdalen" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
>>>> Subject: [Magdalen] One more liturgy post
>>>>
>>>>> I'm supplying tomorrow at a church that I know well. They're having
>>> only one service, which will probably be sparsely attended.
>>>>> The rector said we need to observe the Feast of the Holy Name instead
>>> of Christmas 1 and gave me the choice of the two epistle readings. I chose
>>> the Phillipians 2 passage for that, but I'm really disappointed that we
>>> won't have the Prologue to John's Gospel. I love preaching on that passage,
>>> and it seems to me that we need all the light we can get right now.
>>>>> The other appointed readings are singularly uninspiring (sorry, but
>>> that's the way it feels!).
>>>>> I have occasionally departed from assigned readings, reading the
>>> substitution at the beginning of my sermon.
>>>>> Your thoughts?=
>
The Romans now use Solemnity of Mary Mother of God because January 1 was the original feast of Our Lady in the Western Church or at least Rome. IN the old days there used to be commemmorative collects for the Feastof the circumcision that used the collects of Mary. there used to be three Masses on January 1 as on Christmas to cover all the liturgical themes

Whatever feast you celebrate it is not hard to reference the other traditional themes,

In the Byzantine Rite tomorrow is both the Feast of the Circumcision and St Basil but also the Sunday before Theophany  all these readings are permitted if not prescribed. I would thing using the divine Liturgy of St Basil  on January 1 and explaining why it among the 10 days this anaphora is served is more pastorally effective than piling on three epistle and Gospels.
Joe