[Magdalen] prayers please

[Jay Weigel]

Don't even get me started on what I think of JCAHO. It's not even a
"required" organization. It's a private organization, and as one of my
managers once said, "We PAY to get abused by these people!" They are
invested in keeping their jobs, so they *have* to find something wrong.

And we should switch this discussion to another thread.

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 9:59 PM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:

> We had a professional staff committee which had representatives from every
> discipline. I sat on it as the Rehabilitation rep. It was very interesting.
> Of course the MDs and MSNs did most of the talking, but still it was an
> opportunity to hear about stuff and to give feedback.
>
> JCAHO came in and said, "You know, you do not have any requirement to have
> those disciplines on this committee. You should get rid of them and just
> have doctors."  And even though it was a step backward, and even though it
> was not required, they did it, because you always do what the fools, er,
> experts on JCAHO want whether you need to or not.
>
> I saw very little benefit from JCAH or  JCAHO, although the terror of what
> they might find undoubtedly motivated us to move swiftly to make
> innovations so it would not be a deficiency.
>
> Officially they could come at any time, but the honchos talked to each
> other in all the other facilities around the state and country, and we kept
> track of where they were day by day. If they were in a facility far away
> from us, odds were they would not be here the next day, and that was the
> way it worked. We always had a pretty good idea of when they were coming.
> I think one of the facilities in NYC did in fact get blindsided, and they
> had a disastrous review, and ended up being closed.
>
> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
> except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
>
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 6:53 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Oh, I have, I have! I don't think that should even be allowed! Anyone
> > getting a degree in health care administration should have to spend 6-9
> > months shadowing ALL the various workers in the hospital as part of their
> > degree requirement. I mean from maintenance all the way up.....dietary,
> > CNAs, transport, nursing, housekeeping, EVERYBODY! Then they *might* get
> a
> > clue!!!!
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 6:40 PM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
> > oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I've worked with some of those. And then there were those who had
> degrees
> > > in administration who literally knew nothing about how the work was
> done.
> > > Picture them trying to tell the pros how to do their job!
> > >
> > > James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> > > *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not
> preserved,
> > > except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
> > >
> > > On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Jon Egger <revegger at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Exactly, James!  This new person in charge has 20 years in nursing
> but
> > > > never worked on a floor or in a unit.
> > > >
> > > > Grace and peace,
> > > > brud
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 12:52 AM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
> > > > oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Why do we let the damn bean counters run these things anyway?
> > > > >
> > > > > James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> > > > > *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not
> > > preserved,
> > > > > except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Well that bites. I'd almost be looking for a new hospice, since
> you
> > > > have
> > > > > to
> > > > > > start over anyway.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Jon Egger <revegger at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'll third that with a caveat.  Grace Hospice has a new manager
> > and
> > > > she
> > > > > > has
> > > > > > > either fired or laid off staff.  My favorite nurse and chaplain
> > > were
> > > > > > fired
> > > > > > > and everyone who works there is wondering "Who's next?"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Grace and peace,
> > > > > > > brud
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 9:29 AM, James Handsfield <
> > > > jhandsfield at att.net>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I’ll second that opinion.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > Education is its own reward, both for the individual and for
> > > > society.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Jim Handsfield
> > > > > > > > jhandsfield at att.net
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Feb 5, 2016, at 12:10 AM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
> > > > > > > > oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Those hospice people are really very wonderful.  They can
> > just
> > > > come
> > > > > > > into
> > > > > > > > > the home where you're at and make a difference.
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