[Magdalen] Recovery query.

[Jay Weigel]

Actually I should have said *diet* tonic water with lime. I don't like
regular tonic water. The other benefit of the tonic water is that it quells
leg cramps, to which I've always been subject in the summer.

On Saturday, January 9, 2016, Molly Wolf <lupa at kos.net> wrote:

> I go for diet tonic water with lime.  The usual, if not medically sound,
> course is to shift your addiction from booze to sugar.  I remember
> practically worshipping vanilla cupcakes for a while.  Not recommended.
>
> At the suggestion of a dear friend, I betook myself to Detox for four
> surprisingly peaceful days.  I didn't have much trouble with detoxing from
> alcohol, but about a month later, I got quite ill from all the associated
> organics (esters, ethers, etc.) emerging from my tissues.
>
> It's not just about the booze, though.  "In addiction, 15% of the problem
> is the substance of choice; 85% is the other shit."  Recovery is about the
> other shit.  Sadly, AA has many members who fail to "work the program" and
> stay stuck in the immaturity and self -absorption of alcoholism.
>
> BTW, the 12 Steps are good spiritual hygiene for anyone.
>
> My 1/100 of a toonie.
>
> Molly
>
> The man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no
> other way. -- Mark Twain
>
> > On Jan 9, 2016, at 9:57 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > Iced tea.
> > Water with lemon or lime slices.
> > Coffee (iced coffee in the summer).
> > Tonic water with lime (hot weather only).
> > Sparkling water with citrus juice added (no sugar).
> >
> > Helpfully(?)
> > Jay
> >
> >> On Saturday, January 9, 2016, M J _Mike_ Logsdon <mjl at ix.netcom.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Anything to get away from discussion about varying experiences of AA,
> eh?
> >> :-)=
> >>
> >> Query:  From the purely "oral fixation" aspect of alcoholism, what do
> some
> >> of you substitute for alcohol?  And don't say, Well, Mike, just about
> >> anything.  (Anyone who's been to AA knows the obvious answer is caffeine
> >> and nicotine.)  But when you've lived with 40% for 13 years, substitutes
> >> can be a mystery.  My first guess is my favorite substitute for sugary
> >> sodas:  seltzer water.  The carbonic acid that results from the
> combining
> >> of H2O and CO2 has a nice flavor, I think, and is greatly superior to
> club
> >> soda, and certainly superior to tonic water with its quinine-ishness.
> >>
>