[Magdalen] Curse on Masons

[Jay Weigel]

If you read some of the books by former Mormons who get into some of the
rituals of the LDS church, mostly those that take place in the temples, you
can see how closely thy parallel Masonic rituals. In fact, some books will
spell those right out for you.

On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 12:31 AM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:

> It is interesting that you mention W. A. Mozart. He and his wife were
> Masons. The choice of Masonic lodge was one noted as  especially faithful
> to the tenets of the RCC.  While the Pope banned freemasonry, the ban
> didn't reach Mozart's land during his lifetime. It took about half a
> century for them to do that, demonstrating how dedicated the RCC was to the
> whole thing.   Amadeus was faithful to the RCC. And a Mason.
>
> The RCC was so upset about the Masons that they went out and created a
> fraternal organization just like it. Actually, the creation of the KofC
> might well have been a tacit recognition of the need for such an
> organization.
>
> Back in the beginning of the eighteenth century, a lot of folks did not
> like freedom very much, and those who did took it for granted that freedom
> would be severely limited, as we know from the example of the US as well as
> most European countries. One would jump (and a big jump it is) to the
> assumption that Masonry was feared greatly.  It must not have been so, or
> how could a Papal ban take half a century to get recognized in a Catholic
> country? Obviously, whatever else we can say, it wasn't a major item on
> their agenda.
>
> Oh sure, you can find some bad blood between many faiths in those years,
> and even in the early twentieth century. But the notion of a curse is just
> beyond the pale.  It is categorically denied in Catholic encyclopedias.
>
> http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/
>
> Go to "M" and search for "curse." I wouldn't wish all that dry reading on
> anyone.
>
> In WW II, Freemasonry existed in Germany, and it did absolutely nothing to
> resist the Nazis. It was, by that time, a paper tiger, just as is the case
> here.
>
> In the mid-twentieth century, Catholics and protestants were happily
> working together for various goals. In Pittsburgh this was energetically
> supported by Bishop Wright (later became a cardinal). One group was
> referred to as "Knights and Nobles." I well recall how much joy it brought
> Dad to have such an event in which he could be active with his friends who
> were members of the RCC.
>
>
>
> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
> except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
>
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 6:33 PM, ME Michaud <michaudme at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Free association, freedom to think independently and outside the
> structure
> > & dictates of the OHCC, various other Protestant postures. The RCC (via
> its
> > daughter the Inquisition) has prohibited Masonry since the early
> eighteenth
> > century.
> >
> > And speaking of the eighteenth century, there's the Magic Flute. Scary to
> > Mother Church. Mozart was a Mason.
> > -M, in a land where pansies bloom and birds sing at dusk
> >
>