[Magdalen] TEC suspended from Anglican Communion

Sally Davies sally.davies at gmail.com
Sat Jan 16 08:00:15 UTC 2016


Spot on Jim, thank you.

There are few phrases that wave a red flag for me, more than "the clear
teaching of Scripture".

It is invariably followed by some statement of position or truth claim that
represents a bid for more earthly power and influence - for a better seat
at the table of the Lord.

Sally D

On Friday, 15 January 2016, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:

> "No. You are mistaken, Bishops. The teaching is not clear in scripture. It
> never was. It only seems clear if one reads the Bible literally. You seem
> to forget that not everyone reads the Bible literally, nor is there any
> expectation nor any requirement that a Christian read the Bible literally.
> Reading the scriptures in terms of symbol and metaphor allows the wisdom
> therein to speak much more fully to all of us, here and now.
> "You are well within your rights to opine that scripture says what you
> honestly believe it says, but if we respect your reading of scripture, then
> you must also respect ours, for this is how the Anglican Communion works,
> and has worked for centuries, even though you may some of you be quite new
> to the process."
>
> Now where do I send it?  And would anyone give a damn?
>
> They've let the children play in church again, it appears....
>
> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
> except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
>
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 3:26 PM, Scott Knitter <scottknitter at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> > What I don't get is why the claims of "the clear teaching of
> > Scripture" aren't challenged more, based on what the texts actually
> > say and to whom. And what I really don't get is when the response is
> > something along the lines of "Well, we don't idolize Scripture
> > anyway," or "There's more than Scripture." When what could be said is
> > that we regard Scripture highly enough to read what it says and what
> > message is intended, and to whom the message is directed--all of which
> > is the opposite of twisting Scripture to meet our needs, or not
> > hearing its "clear teaching."
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 2:05 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > > They don't want to "walk together". They want everyone else to walk in
> > > lockstep with them.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Scott Knitter <scottknitter at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Molly Wolf <lupa at kos.net
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >> > Presumably the Anglican Church of Canada will follow.
> > >>
> > >> The GAFCON folks are upset that Canada wasn't sanctioned too.
> > >>
> > >> http://www.thinkinganglicans.org.uk/archives/007169.html
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Scott R. Knitter
> > >> Edgewater, Chicago, Illinois USA
> > >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Scott R. Knitter
> > Edgewater, Chicago, Illinois USA
> >
>


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