[Magdalen] Another question

Wed May 4 19:59:26 UTC 2016

When you copy something to location "Dark Place," you do in fact cause them
to be put there.  When you go to "put them back," however, they probably
remain there.  They will always be in some kind of cache somewhere. Even if
the folks tell you they can't get them back, they actually CAN; they just
don't want to take the time and expense.  If you were the CIA or the FBI
and so requested, I guarantee you'd have everything back today.  Nothing on
the internet ever goes away.

However, if you were to delete them deliberately, it might help....

James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
*“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy

On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks, Jim. I do use my Kindle for FB sometimes, because the screen is
> larger than the one on my phone. I guess one thing I can do is to take all
> the pictures off my Kindle, which will take a long time, but is probably a
> good idea.
>
> On May 4, 2016, at 2:15 PM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
> oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure whether your kindle had anything to do with that.  Where were
> these 81 pictures to begin with?  I generally don't allow anything to see
> anything on my hard drive.
>
> If it turns out that the kindle was somehow a conduit for those 81 pictures
> (and I don't know if that was or was not the case), then disconnecting your
> kindle from FB would be the thing to do.  I'd do that anyway, unless you
> use the kindle for FB functions.
>
> It is a good idea to say NO to any privileges if you don't actually need
> them.  It's a subtle difference from the idea of shutting avenues you know
> you definitely don't want, but not necessarily shutting others because you
> do not see the actual potential harm, or do not use the function. We all
> know what happens when someone lets something go, saying, "What could
> possibly go wrong?"
>
> I would guess that you have a kindle which is passing stuff to the
> internet. Someone who has one of these can address what to do to turn that
> function off.  In the worst case, it sounds like the kindle saw stuff in
> your PC that it assumed ought to be shared, and so it went ahead and shared
> them.  If there were pictures on your kindle I would not do that anymore.
> You ought to have some kind of help desk to consult about how to turn
> functions on and off, or some kind of FAQ files about privacy issues.  In
> any case, it looks like you need to find where your leak is and plug it....
>
>
>
>
> http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/I/IoS.html
>
> http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/A/apple_ios.html
>
>
>
> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
> except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks, Jim. My question really has more to do with how all the pictures
> > got on my Kindle in the first place when I didn't put them there.
> >
> > Re the FB question, I don't understand how posting what I thought were
> > just 9 specific pictures caused 81 to be downloaded from something called
> > ios.
> >
> > > On May 4, 2016, at 12:49 PM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
> > oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have noticed a lot of problems with FB's new privacy policy, which is
> > > essentially assuming that you let everyone see everything you've got
> > unless
> > > you say no.  You can go to the settings area of FB and look over the
> > > privacy settings and set them for NO in any topic or subsection that
> you
> > > would hypothetically not want others to see.  With various things you
> can
> > > choose who gets to see them:
> > > Nobody, friends, and some other parameters that, as I recall, are
> pretty
> > > straightforward.  Pay special attention to privacy settings with
> portable
> > > or other devices (which is where your kindle comes in).
> > >
> > > The rule of thumb is that you should never ever post any information to
> > any
> > > electronic medium you would not want the world to see, because that is
> > very
> > > possibly what is going to happen.  Pictures you intend for some person
> or
> > > persons should never go on FB, which is not reliable anyway.  You
> should
> > > send those the old-fashioned way -- via email -- or print them out and
> > send
> > > them via snail mail. The latter may be a bit more work, but it's
> secure.
> > > And, now that I think of it, snail mail is truly the OldFashioned Way.
> > >
> > > If you see something that should not be there (whether it's yours or
> > > anyone's) there is a means to flag it in FB.  That might not be a bad
> > idea,
> > > since a human will see that and make some decision about it, and you
> > might
> > > get some feedback on ways to protect yourself better.  As bad as FB
> might
> > > be in the eyes of some, it is truly intent on not causing offense and
> > > anger, so if you give the opportunity, they will probably at least
> point
> > > you to a url of a site where you can get the info you need.  And who
> > knows?
> > > Someone in the know might actually help you fix your problem.
> > >
> > > James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> > > *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not
> preserved,
> > > except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Maybe not as stupid as the last one...this one is for you computer
> > experts.
> > >>
> > >> Part 1:
> > >> I was trying to get the photos from the recent RAM clinic on my Kindle
> > so
> > >> they'd be larger and easier to show to friends. The only way I knew to
> > do
> > >> that was to email them to myself and then open them on the Kindle. So
> I
> > did
> > >> that. But then, seeing there was a Photos heading, I opened that--only
> > to
> > >> discover that it contained all the pictures currently on my phone--all
> > >> sorted into years!  Since I've never saved any to the Kindle before, I
> > have
> > >> no idea how they got there. And I still don't know how to save them
> > there
> > >> on purpose.
> > >>
> > >> Part 2:
> > >> I posted some of the photos to Facebook--about nine, I think. The next
> > day
> > >> I saw that a friend had shared my post, which was fine, but it said
> > there
> > >> were now 81 pictures there!  Sure enough, all the pictures on the
> Kindle
> > >> were there...it said something about nine pictures being added to an
> ios
> > >> file, whatever that is.  I couldn't remove the shared post, but I
> asked
> > my
> > >> friend to remove it. Now I'm afraid to post any pictures to FB at all.
> > Can
> > >> someone explain what has happened and what I need to do?
> >
>