[Magdalen] Whither Pentecost Sequence.

[Joseph Cirou]

In our Byzantine tradition, we have the Kneeling Prayers on Pentecost and readthe Gospel in various  languages on Easter or a Sunday close to it. The Slav read the Gospel of John 1 on Pascha. The Greeks read the Gospel of the Appearance of Jesus at Vespers of Agape, the Arabs read the Gospel of Thomas on the Sunday after Pascha. 
The official beginning of Kneeling begins at Kneeling Vespers which follow immediately or shortly (post coffee) after the Liturgy.  We were told that the rubric to sing the first verse of the Veni Creator on our knees was the Western Church's version of Kneeling Prayers.

There is also the tradition of a most solemn celebration of the Office of Terce (9AM) and chant the Veni Creator at that point (not on our knees



JoeJoe






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>From: Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
>Sent: May 15, 2016 2:35 PM
>To: "magdalen at herberthouse.org" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
>Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Whither Pentecost Sequence.
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>Well, I had asked the vicar about that before she went away, and she thought it was a good idea. But what she arranged was for someone to read the [very long] Gospel passage in Koinè Greek and then the deacon read it in English. I didn't find it very effective.  A couple of years ago I had people read in three modern languages besides English--one was Arabic--and I had them read simultaneously from wherever they were in the congregation. I liked that better than any other way I've experienced it; it seemed to me that that might have sounded a bit like that first Pentecost. Though, of course, if each person was simply hearing the words in their own language, I guess they wouldn't hear a collection of languages. 
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>It's good for us, though, to realize that the Gospel is read and proclaimed in a multitude of languages around the world.
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>> On May 15, 2016, at 2:22 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> What I missed was the reading of some/part of the lessons or prayers in
>> various languages. Our congregation is pretty white bread but I know there
>> are people who do speak some other languages and could do that.
>> 
>> On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Joseph Cirou <romanos at mindspring.com>
>> wrote:
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>>>> From: ME Michaud <michaudme at gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: May 15, 2016 1:41 PM
>>>> To: "magdalen at herberthouse.org" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Whither Pentecost Sequence.
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>>>> We went full traditional:
>>>> Hail Thee Festival Day
>>>> Down Ampney
>>>> Abbot's Leigh
>>> Very nice. There are a number of nice settings of the Golden Sequence out
>>> there. In Chicago it was a part of the Pentecost Proprium by Jozek
>>> Kronsteiner--an Austrian composer. The music was part of a cache of
>>> European compositions introduced by Msgr. Meter after the 1950 Holy Year
>>> (the first time a lot of new European music had surfaced.) For the real
>>> classics there is always the Dunstable. Mozart wrote a setting of the
>>> Alleluia Verse for Pentecost. I wanted something more contemporary for my
>>> anniversary. We already were doing Mexican Baroque and Gabrieli and the
>>> Agnus Dei from the Vierne Mass. I tried to include every group in the
>>> Parish. I just realized I didn't include the Filipino. I don't think they
>>> came forward when I was asking for suggestions. Our sacred dancers were
>>> Puerto Rican assisted by a classical dance troupe that had choreographed.
>>> Jehan Alain's Dances for Organ.
>>> 
>>> Joe
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>>>> The Gibson was a complete (and very welcome) surprise.
>>>> 
>>>> The recording on the link I sent is directed by our DoM, who is IMO
>>> amazing.
>>>> -M
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>>>>> On Sunday, May 15, 2016, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>> Lucky you! We got a nice anthem which I didn't recognize, "holy Spirit,
>>>>> Fill With Power" by Lani Smith
>>>>> On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 1:07 PM, ME Michaud <michaudme at gmail.com
>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
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>>>>>> This morning's motet
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>>>>>> http://paulgibsonmusic.com/2007/09/veni_sancte_spiritus.html
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