[Magdalen] Whither Pentecost Sequence.

[Jay Weigel]

In one of the churches I attended, it was usually the second lesson (the
shorter one) that was read in different languages, one after the other.
That was pretty effective, and sort of cool when it *finished*, rather than
started, in English.

On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Joseph Cirou <romanos at mindspring.com>
wrote:

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> In our Byzantine tradition, we have the Kneeling Prayers on Pentecost and
> readthe Gospel in various  languages on Easter or a Sunday close to it. The
> Slav read the Gospel of John 1 on Pascha. The Greeks read the Gospel of the
> Appearance of Jesus at Vespers of Agape, the Arabs read the Gospel of
> Thomas on the Sunday after Pascha.
> The official beginning of Kneeling begins at Kneeling Vespers which follow
> immediately or shortly (post coffee) after the Liturgy.  We were told that
> the rubric to sing the first verse of the Veni Creator on our knees was the
> Western Church's version of Kneeling Prayers.
>
> There is also the tradition of a most solemn celebration of the Office of
> Terce (9AM) and chant the Veni Creator at that point (not on our knees
>
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> JoeJoe
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> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
> >Sent: May 15, 2016 2:35 PM
> >To: "magdalen at herberthouse.org" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Whither Pentecost Sequence.
> >
> >Well, I had asked the vicar about that before she went away, and she
> thought it was a good idea. But what she arranged was for someone to read
> the [very long] Gospel passage in Koinè Greek and then the deacon read it
> in English. I didn't find it very effective.  A couple of years ago I had
> people read in three modern languages besides English--one was Arabic--and
> I had them read simultaneously from wherever they were in the congregation.
> I liked that better than any other way I've experienced it; it seemed to me
> that that might have sounded a bit like that first Pentecost. Though, of
> course, if each person was simply hearing the words in their own language,
> I guess they wouldn't hear a collection of languages.
> >
> >It's good for us, though, to realize that the Gospel is read and
> proclaimed in a multitude of languages around the world.
> >
> >> On May 15, 2016, at 2:22 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> What I missed was the reading of some/part of the lessons or prayers in
> >> various languages. Our congregation is pretty white bread but I know
> there
> >> are people who do speak some other languages and could do that.
> >>
> >> On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Joseph Cirou <romanos at mindspring.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: ME Michaud <michaudme at gmail.com>
> >>>> Sent: May 15, 2016 1:41 PM
> >>>> To: "magdalen at herberthouse.org" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Whither Pentecost Sequence.
> >>>>
> >>>> We went full traditional:
> >>>> Hail Thee Festival Day
> >>>> Down Ampney
> >>>> Abbot's Leigh
> >>> Very nice. There are a number of nice settings of the Golden Sequence
> out
> >>> there. In Chicago it was a part of the Pentecost Proprium by Jozek
> >>> Kronsteiner--an Austrian composer. The music was part of a cache of
> >>> European compositions introduced by Msgr. Meter after the 1950 Holy
> Year
> >>> (the first time a lot of new European music had surfaced.) For the real
> >>> classics there is always the Dunstable. Mozart wrote a setting of the
> >>> Alleluia Verse for Pentecost. I wanted something more contemporary for
> my
> >>> anniversary. We already were doing Mexican Baroque and Gabrieli and the
> >>> Agnus Dei from the Vierne Mass. I tried to include every group in the
> >>> Parish. I just realized I didn't include the Filipino. I don't think
> they
> >>> came forward when I was asking for suggestions. Our sacred dancers were
> >>> Puerto Rican assisted by a classical dance troupe that had
> choreographed.
> >>> Jehan Alain's Dances for Organ.
> >>>
> >>> Joe
> >>>
> >>>> The Gibson was a complete (and very welcome) surprise.
> >>>>
> >>>> The recording on the link I sent is directed by our DoM, who is IMO
> >>> amazing.
> >>>> -M
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Sunday, May 15, 2016, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Lucky you! We got a nice anthem which I didn't recognize, "holy
> Spirit,
> >>>>> Fill With Power" by Lani Smith
> >>>>> On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 1:07 PM, ME Michaud <michaudme at gmail.com
> >>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> This morning's motet
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://paulgibsonmusic.com/2007/09/veni_sancte_spiritus.html
> >>>
> >>>
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