[Magdalen] Next Steps

Thu Nov 10 17:39:37 UTC 2016

Good point about the ACLU.

James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
*“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Rick Mashburn <ricklmashburn at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I like Tim Kaine a lot and the DNC could do a lot worse than him as the
> next leader. I understand he isn't as progressive as some would like but
> his leadership skills would be a tremendous asset to the party....even if
> the candidates are more progressive than him.
>
> The other thing I've done today is join the ACLU. I have a feeling they're
> going to be really busy over the next few years.
>
> Peace, Rick
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Kate Conant <kate.conant at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Tim Kaine is not a progressive.  The Democratic Party has been neoliberal
> > for way too long.  Perhaps it should die along with the Clinton machine
> > (and Manchin machine in West Virginia).
> >
> > Michael Moore has just posted his To-Do List for today:
> >
> > Michael Moore <https://www.facebook.com/mmflint/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED&fref=nf
> >
> > 7 mins <https://www.facebook.com/mmflint/posts/10153915876426857> ·
> > <https://www.facebook.com/mmflint/posts/10153915876426857#>
> >
> > Day Two's To-Do List:
> > 1. Must quickly and decisively form an opposition movement, the likes of
> > which hasn't been seen since the 1960s. I will do my part to help lead
> this
> > as I'm sure many others (Bernie, Elizabeth Warren, MoveOn, the hip-hop
> > community, DFA, etc.) will, too. The core of this opposition force will
> be
> > fueled by young people who, as with Occupy Wall Street and Black Lives
> > Matter, don't tolerate b.s. and are relentless in their resistance to
> > authority. They have no interest in compromising with racists and
> > misogynists.
> >
> > 2. Prepare to impeach Trump. Just as the Republicans were already
> planning
> > to do with President Hillary from Day One, we must organize the apparatus
> > that will bring charges against him when he violates his oath and breaks
> > the law -- and then we must remove him from office.
> >
> > 3. Must commit right now to a vigorous fight (including civil
> disobedience,
> > if necessary) which will block any and all Donald Trump Supreme Court
> > nominees who do not meet our approval. We demand the Democrats in the
> > Senate aggressively filibuster any nominees who support Citizens United
> or
> > who oppose the rights of women, immigrants and the poor. This is
> > non-negotiable.
> >
> > 4. Demand the DNC apologize to Bernie Sanders for trying to fix the
> > primaries against him, for spinning the press to ignore his historic
> > campaign, for giving Clinton the questions in advance at the Flint
> debate,
> > for its latent ageism and anti-Semism in trying to turn voters against
> him
> > because of his age or religious beliefs, and for its anti-democracy
> system
> > of "superdelegates" who are elected by no one. We all know now had Bernie
> > been given a fair shot, he probably would have been the nominee and he --
> > as the true outsider and "change" candidate --would have inspired and
> fired
> > up the base and soundly defeated Donald Trump. If no apology is soon
> > forthcoming from the DNC, that's ok -- when we take over the Democratic
> > Party (see yesterday's To-Do List, #1), we will issue the apology in
> > person.
> >
> > 5. Demand that President Obama establish a Special Prosecutor to
> > investigate who and what was behind FBI Director James Comey's illegal
> > interference into the Presidential election 11 days before the vote was
> > held.
> >
> > 6. Begin a national push while it's fresh in everyone's mind for a
> > constitutional amendment to fix our broken electoral system: 1. Eliminate
> > the Electoral College -- popular vote only. 2. Paper ballots only -- no
> > electronic voting. 3. Election Day must be made a holiday for all -- or
> > held on a weekend so more people vote. 4. All citizens, regardless of any
> > run-ins with the criminal "justice" system, must have the right to vote.
> > (In swing states like Florida and Virginia, 30-40% of all Black men are
> > prohibited by law from voting.)
> >
> > 7. Convince President Obama to immediately do what he should have done a
> > year ago: Send in the Army Corps of Engineers to Flint to dig up and
> > replace all the poisoned pipes. NOTHING HAS CHANGED; the water in Flint
> is
> > still unusable.
> >
> > Will try to get these done by sundown. More To-Do tomorrow...
> > --Michael Moore
> > <https://www.facebook.com/ufi/reaction/profile/browser/?ft_
> ent_identifier=
> > 10154561231336147&av=744476146>
> > Here is his post from yesterday:
> >
> >
> > Michael Moore
> > <https://www.facebook.com/mmflint/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE&fref=nf>
> > Yesterday at 10:13am
> > <https://www.facebook.com/mmflint/posts/10153913074756857> ·
> > <https://www.facebook.com/mmflint/posts/10153915876426857#>
> >
> > Morning After To-Do List:
> > 1. Take over the Democratic Party and return it to the people. They have
> > failed us miserably.
> > 2. Fire all pundits, predictors, pollsters and anyone else in the media
> who
> > had a narrative they wouldn't let go of and refused to listen to or
> > acknowledge what was really going on. Those same bloviators will now tell
> > us we must "heal the divide" and "come together." They will pull more
> hooey
> > like that out of their ass in the days to come. Turn them off.
> > 3. Any Democratic member of Congress who didn't wake up this morning
> ready
> > to fight, resist and obstruct in the way Republicans did against
> President
> > Obama every day for eight full years must step out of the way and let
> those
> > of us who know the score lead the way in stopping the meanness and the
> > madness that's about to begin.
> > 4. Everyone must stop saying they are "stunned" and "shocked". What you
> > mean to say is that you were in a bubble and weren't paying attention to
> > your fellow Americans and their despair. YEARS of being neglected by both
> > parties, the anger and the need for revenge against the system only grew.
> > Along came a TV star they liked whose plan was to destroy both parties
> and
> > tell them all "You're fired!" Trump's victory is no surprise. He was
> never
> > a joke. Treating him as one only strengthened him. He is both a creature
> > and a creation of the media and the media will never own that.
> > 5. You must say this sentence to everyone you meet today: "HILLARY
> CLINTON
> > WON THE POPULAR VOTE!" The MAJORITY of our fellow Americans preferred
> > Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump. Period. Fact. If you woke up this
> > morning thinking you live in an effed-up country, you don't. The majority
> > of your fellow Americans wanted Hillary, not Trump. The only reason he's
> > president is because of an arcane, insane 18th-century idea called the
> > Electoral College. Until we change that, we'll continue to have
> presidents
> > we didn't elect and didn't want. You live in a country where a majority
> of
> > its citizens have said they believe there's climate change, they believe
> > women should be paid the same as men, they want a debt-free college
> > education, they don't want us invading countries, they want a raise in
> the
> > minimum wage and they want a single-payer true universal health care
> > system. None of that has changed. We live in a country where the majority
> > agree with the "liberal" position. We just lack the liberal leadership to
> > make that happen (see: #1 above).
> >
> > Let's try to get this all done by noon today.
> > -- Michael Moore
> >
> >
> > "What does the Lord require of you, but to do justice, love mercy, and
> walk
> > humbly with your God?"
> > Micah 6:8
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Ginga Wilder <gingawilder at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Tim Kaine is a genuinely good man.  I say yes, Jim!
> > > Ginga
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 11:31 AM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
> > > oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Something to think about.
> > > >
> > > > https://youtu.be/iEumay-kcM8?t=1m58s
> > > >
> > > > Also, we have lately had some of the worst politicians one can even
> > > > imagine.
> > > >
> > > > We elected a buffoon. Then we repeated the error with George Bush,
> and
> > > > eventually everyone on both sides of the aisle knew he was a twit
> and a
> > > > buffoon. And we have elected a bully and a punk, of which nobody has
> > ever
> > > > been able to say one word of praise.  Insanity is continuing to do
> the
> > > same
> > > > thing and expecting different results.
> > > >
> > > > America not only is not the greatest country in the world, it is up
> > there
> > > > for the dumbest country in the world. The information is out there,
> but
> > > > people willfully refuse to look at it.
> > > >
> > > > I'm ashamed of this land, and I deeply regret that I wasted all that
> > time
> > > > serving in the military to preserve the rights of a few hundred
> million
> > > > slimy dirtbags.
> > > >
> > > > James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> > > > *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not
> > preserved,
> > > > except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 10:04 AM, AT&T <jhandsfield at att.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The first thing the DNC should do is name Tim Kaine DNC Chairman.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim Handsfield
> > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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