[Magdalen] Philiowhy? - Re: Philiioque

[Marion Thompson]

I'm a mix now. Standing until after the Prayers of the People and then 
kneeling for the Confession and Absolution. Standing until after the 
Sanctus then kneeling until standing for the prayer after Communion, 
Glory to God ..., and blessing.

Marion, a pilgrim


On 9/12/2016 6:39 PM, Lynn Ronkainen wrote:
> ... I learned to be  'stander' at my former parish due to that 
> rector's exegesis and Christianity-history lessons (but we could do 
> either)... I remained a stander when I first attended where I am now, 
> but very few stood, and most because they were unable to kneel. I 
> buckled (guffaw) and began kneeling.  A year later the rector (former) 
> announced that he encouraged us to stand until the Lord's prayer 
> (coincidentally my former habit from previous church). Two weeks 
> later, at announcement time, he explained his reasoning for 'asking' 
> us to do that and also said that a number of people had contacted him 
> and said they would leave (LEAVE??) if the policy suggesting standing, 
> stood. He reiterated that it was still our choice and that he would 
> not officially mandate standing but encouraged it... I'm not sure if 
> anyone has even told the new dean that this incident happened.
>
> As always knowing some/any history of a place has be an interesting 
> fly-on-the-wall experience I find anew, over and over (especially 
> church).
> L
>
> website: www.ichthysdesigns.com
>
> When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have 
> not a single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You 
> gave me." attributed to Erma Bombeck
> "Either Freedom for all or stop talking about Freedom at all" from a 
> talk by Richard Rohr
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "ME Michaud" <michaudme at gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 5:25 PM
> To: <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Philiowhy? - Re: Philiioque
>
>> Oh dear.
>>
>> I go to a kneeling church (although, to tell the truth, most of us sit).
>> I'm not able to kneel, so I stand. I'm not the only one who stands, 
>> and I
>> try to sit over on the side and out of the sight lines.
>>
>> Heard through the grapevine that some of the older folks complained 
>> about
>> us standers. "Send them to me," I told the rector, who paled a bit 
>> (we've
>> known each other for a long time). I was all excited, thinking 
>> RUBRICS, but
>> he handled it without my help :-D
>> -M
>>
>>
>> On Monday, September 12, 2016, Lynn Ronkainen <houstonklr at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> hearing his exegesis of the italic words in the BCP which direct both
>>> priest and parish (you may sit or stand, for instance, I'm quite 
>>> familiar
>>> with these from many years ago, and how they 'work').... on Saturday we
>>> heard that there were two kinds.... one mandates, the other offers a
>>> choice, BUT... invoking 'theology', he told us that the priest 
>>> mandates our
>>> choice on the choice ones.... then he began to support the various 
>>> times
>>> these directives occur and what his expectations are for us (not 
>>> just us
>>> those up in the sanctuary, but us, his parishioners) and 'why',
>>> theologically of course he wants it done a certain way, 
>>> theologically is it
>>> mandated to be done a certain way
>>>
>