[Magdalen] Philiowhy? - Re: Philiioque

[Joseph Cirou]

-----Original Message-----
>From: Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
>Sent: Sep 12, 2016 3:48 PM
>To: "magdalen at herberthouse.org" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
>Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Philiowhy? - Re: Philiioque
>
>Interesting, Scott. When I was vicar of two mission congregations in the Shenandoah Valley, I met an Orthodox priest at a meeting of a Council of Churches committee. He asked me where I was from, and when I told him, he said, "I tell people in your area they can come to your church, because we don't have any there."
>At the time I didn't realize that that was pretty radical...
>
>> On Sep 12, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Scott Knitter <scottknitter at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I love Greek church festivals in the summer, including the food and
>> the church tour, but I keep quiet on the tour and when visiting any
>> book-sale booth at such festivals. I once said I was visiting from an
>> Episcopal parish, thinking they'd like the liturgical-church
>> connection, but it simply gave the priest there a cue to start working
>> on me about why I don't just go all the way and become Orthodox
>> (similar to traditional Roman Catholics who wonder why we wouldn't
>> "just come home" to the "Catholic Church").
>> 
>>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 5:45 AM, ME Michaud <michaudme at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I worked with four students from Holy Cross (the school of theology
>>> attached to Hellenic College in Brookline) and I can promise you that they
>>> aren't. One of them, a guy who'd been brought from Greece, wouldn't even
>>> speak to women who spoke to him first. Talk about boundaries!
>>> 
>>> Their hospital skills included close interviews with patients to make
>>> absolutely certain they'd been chrismated (where, when & who, please)
>>> before further discussion occurred.
>>> 
>>> Their idea of a lunch break was to open the BCP and mock the translation of
>>> Eucharistic Prayer D.
>>> -M
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 12:20 AM, Cantor03--- via Magdalen <
>>> magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I have told the story elsewhere of being at the ordination of a  former
>>>> Episcopal priest into the priesthood of one of the local 4 Russian
>>>> jurisdictions (the OCA).  TEC was the object of really  embarrassing
>>>> criticism that even upset the ordinand.  Ecumenism between the  OCA
>>>> and TEC are many light years away.  Maybe the Greeks are closer.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Scott R. Knitter
>> Edgewater, Chicago, Illinois USA
There has been  a good feeling among the Armenians and Episcopalians for years (witness the Centennial Ceremony at the National Cathedral last year for the anniversary of the Genocide). The Armenians appear to be very toleran. Some of their church fathers in the 9th century attempted to reconcile Chalcedon with Armenian theology.`The descendants of the  classic Christologic heresies are still with us 
There are Arians but they are not organized as were the Visigothic Arians that more or less reconciled in 787.

Joe