[Magdalen] Philiowhy? - Re: Philiioque

[Joseph Cirou]

-----Original Message-----
>From: Scott Knitter <scottknitter at gmail.com>
>Sent: Sep 12, 2016 12:49 PM
>To: "Magdalen at herberthouse.org" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
>Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Philiowhy? - Re: Philiioque
>
>I love Greek church festivals in the summer, including the food and
>the church tour, but I keep quiet on the tour and when visiting any
>book-sale booth at such festivals. I once said I was visiting from an
>Episcopal parish, thinking they'd like the liturgical-church
>connection, but it simply gave the priest there a cue to start working
>on me about why I don't just go all the way and become Orthodox
>(similar to traditional Roman Catholics who wonder why we wouldn't
>"just come home" to the "Catholic Church").
>
>On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 5:45 AM, ME Michaud <michaudme at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I worked with four students from Holy Cross (the school of theology
>> attached to Hellenic College in Brookline) and I can promise you that they
>> aren't. One of them, a guy who'd been brought from Greece, wouldn't even
>> speak to women who spoke to him first. Talk about boundaries!
>>
>> Their hospital skills included close interviews with patients to make
>> absolutely certain they'd been chrismated (where, when & who, please)
>> before further discussion occurred.
>>
>> Their idea of a lunch break was to open the BCP and mock the translation of
>> Eucharistic Prayer D.
>> -M
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 12:20 AM, Cantor03--- via Magdalen <
>> magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I have told the story elsewhere of being at the ordination of a  former
>>> Episcopal priest into the priesthood of one of the local 4 Russian
>>> jurisdictions (the OCA).  TEC was the object of really  embarrassing
>>> criticism that even upset the ordinand.  Ecumenism between the  OCA
>>> and TEC are many light years away.  Maybe the Greeks are closer.
>>>
>>>
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>-- 
>Scott R. Knitter
>Edgewater, Chicago, Illinois USA
You know I think someone on this list confused the Filioque with the Philokalis. St Gregory Palamas might suggest that the Divine LIght comes into us from the Son in the Holy Spirit. There is a school of liturgy that believe pray to the father thru the Son in the Holy  Spirit Jungmann's "The Place of Christ in LIturgical

 Prayer" is instructive as is Liturgie Comparée by Baumstark

Joe  (Confusing the Philokaliaa with the Filioque would get several raps from Mother Egregia's  ruler)