[Magdalen] 54 years a bishop...and counting

[Joseph Cirou]

-----Original Message-----
>From: Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
>Sent: Sep 23, 2016 7:31 PM
>To: "magdalen at herberthouse.org" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
>Subject: Re: [Magdalen] 54 years a bishop...and counting
>
>Well, our former bishop, Peter Lee, explained it me by saying that Bp. Montgomery had told him that, while he could not bring himself to ordain a woman, he understood that he was bound to uphold the discipline of the church, which by then allowed for ordained women.  In fact, Bp.Lee held him up as an example of what could/should be done by those who disagreed with the church's position.
>
>I wonder how he would have responded to the church's current position wrt same-sex marriage and the ordaining of  partnered gay and lesbian people...   ;^}
>
>> On Sep 23, 2016, at 6:00 PM, Scott Knitter <scottknitter at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I didn't get that either; seems if his conscience would let him allow
>> other bishops to ordain women, he would ordain them as well. And he's
>> certainly served among ordained women; there are and have been several
>> at Atonement for years. All I can compare it to is the occasional
>> rector I've heard of who hires an associate to provide something the
>> rector feels incompetent or inadequate in: the example I know of (not
>> at our parish) is pastoral care....the rector in question felt at sea
>> in making hospital visits, despite having had CPE and qualified in it,
>> so he hired someone who was very strong and motivated in that area to
>> make sure it was provided. With +JWM, maybe it was something like
>> that: "I can't do this, but it's part of my job in this church, so
>> I'll make sure it's provided, if not by me."
>> 
>> A more cynical (but not unwarranted) view would say he's been able to
>> sort of have it both ways: be "Chicago's last Catholic bishop" in the
>> eyes of the anti-WO side of the house but still be seen as pastoring
>> the whole diocese. I guess that could be seen as a needed compromise
>> in a historically Anglo-Catholic diocese or something less positive
>> depending on where on the spectrum one stands.
>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I didn't realize he was still alive, and thought for some reason that he had been living in DC.
>>> Although he was adamantly opposed to the ordination of women, he was always gracious toward us and helped women in the Dio. Of Chicago to find bishops who would ordain them. I never quite got that...
>> 
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>> -- 
>> Scott R. Knitter
>> Edgewater, Chicago, Illinois USA
I don't think he would have been agin it (g!