[Magdalen] Chittister column

Judy Fleener fleenerj at gmail.com
Wed Jun 7 13:56:25 UTC 2017


Here in the upper midwest Roman Catholic parishes buy ads opposing abortion
with long lists, several pages of newsprint, of individuals who are anti
abortion.  Calling themselves pro-life is such a joke. The cause is also
very popular with the member of the Reformed Church and even more so with
the CRC folk.  Besides Irish and eastern European names in those adds are
the Dutch names.

Years ago Bill and I went to the Trinity Institute where she was a speaker
along with Rowan Williams and Kathleen Norris.  Joan Chittester was the hit
of the week.  She received huge rounds of applause.

On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 3:09 AM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:

> This article is a nice discussion of how in fact the Church almost approved
> jettisoning birth control constraints.  Had John XXIII not died, things may
> have been different.
>
> http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2010/04/catholic-
> church-vatican-bishops-birth-control/
>
> In one of his books, Fr. Andrew Greeley dramatizes the commission by having
> his fictional married couple participate in the commission (patterned after
> the real American couple who participated and brought mounds of evidence
> for why the Church needed to end its ban on birth control. When the Papal
> commission gave its report in favor of ending prohibition of birth control,
> 35 of the 40 active members favored the report. It was kind of
> overwhelming; the faithful assumed it was a done deal; many spontaneously
> stopped using birth control. Then, as we know, Humanae vitae came out, and
> every single index of church health has been pretty much in free fall ever
> since.
> Three bishops secretly went to the Pope and told him if he went along, it
> would erode the authority of the Church; they didn't count of the
> destruction of confidence in the integrity of the Church.
>
> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
> except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
>
> On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 12:08 AM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I'm sure she does, Judy, and I imagine she shakes her head over it. She
> > was the first Roman Catholic I heard making the statement that many
> people
> > who call themselves "pro life" are merely "pro birth," because they have
> no
> > concern for the children or programs to support them or the mothers once
> > they're born.
> >
> > > On Jun 6, 2017, at 7:21 AM, Judy Fleener <fleenerj at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I love Joan Chittester.  I do wonder if she realizes how much support
> > Trump
> > > received from anti abortionists Roman Catholics.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 11:23 PM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
> > > oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I really needed that Dorothy Day quote.
> > >>
> > >> And the POWERFUL poem obliquely alluded to:
> > >>
> > >> http://www.cbsd.org/cms/lib010/PA01916442/Centricity/Domain/2773/
> > >> LetAmericabeAmericaagain.pdf
> > >>
> > >> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> > >> *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not
> > preserved,
> > >> except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com
> >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I can't seem to get a workable link to transfer, but Joan
> Chittister's
> > >>> column "Here I Stand" is especially good today. It's titled "Make
> > America
> > >>> America again. The general NCR link is ncr.org and from there you
> can
> > >>> click on the column.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Judy Fleener, ObJN,SSH
> > > Western Michigan
> >
>



-- 
Judy Fleener, ObJN,SSH
Western Michigan


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