[Magdalen] Clergy-musician dispute redux.

Grace Cangialosi gracecan at gmail.com
Mon Jun 12 15:33:55 UTC 2017


Well, my predecessor there--who seemingly never gave up his Southern Baptist roots (he also preached 45-minute sermons!)--had always used Christmas carols during Advent, as did a majority of the local churches.
So my "novel" approach was not exactly welcome...

> On Jun 12, 2017, at 11:11 AM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Well, now that's just silly, Grace! Advent is Advent, after all! What the
> actual heck did they expect? If they wanted Christmas carols they should
> have gone to a Baptist church where they don't know what Advent is! /s
> (Advent is actually one of my very favorite seasons and has some of the
> best music, especially in the Lutheran church.)
> 
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> I once had a parishioner walk out just before an Advent service; he
>> checked all the hymn numbers and saw there were no Christmas carol!
>> I learned later that that was just the last straw--he and his wife had
>> gone to her Lutheran church earlier that morning, as they always did, and
>> they didn't have any Christmas carols, either!  He said he wasn't coming
>> back--and he never did!
>> 
>>> On Jun 12, 2017, at 10:15 AM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good heavens! And that's why "Catholics can't sing", I guess. ~smdh~
>> Music
>>> has caused me to leave, or at least decide not to attend, more than one
>>> church. I guess RCs don't have that choice, though. They're "assigned" to
>>> the parish they live in, more or less. Although my aunt, who was a
>> convert,
>>> absolutely refused to attend the church behind their building in NYC,
>> which
>>> was supposedly their parish church, because she could not stand the
>> priest,
>>> and she and my uncle went farther downtown to another parish.
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 11:41 PM, Cantor03--- via Magdalen <
>>> magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I usually associate clergy-musician disputes with
>>>> Anglicans and Protestants, but there's been a sad
>>>> dispute chapter played out locally at one of the large
>>>> Roman Catholic churches.
>>>> 
>>>> The organist of this parish and his wife, who were organist
>>>> and choir directors respectively, are leaving their positions
>>>> which they have held for 31+ years.  It's the old situation
>>>> where a new pastor arrived, and he "disliked music," and
>>>> in particular "hated" the pipe organ which the church had just
>>>> rebuilt for $250,000.
>>>> 
>>>> The pastor first stuck the organist with being the church
>>>> janitor in addition to his musical duties, and a not so veiled
>>>> attempt to get the organist out.  The constant bickering has
>>>> taken it's toll.
>>>> 
>>>> There "will be no music at all" this summer, followed by
>>>> whomever he can come up with in rhe autumn.  This is not
>>>> only un-Christian, but non-canonical.   Most
>>>> Episcopal priests I know of are angels compared to this
>>>> pastor.
>>>> 
>> 


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