[Magdalen] Clergy-musician dispute redux.

Sally Davies sally.davies at gmail.com
Thu Jun 15 10:54:22 UTC 2017


One would think it a short step from 'no music at all' to 'no people at all' !! 

Sally D 

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> On 14 Jun 2017, at 7:31 AM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> That's very sad.  I bet he is dealing with some other difficulties and this
> is just one thing he can actually do something about.  But very sad. People
> have always done things a certain way and bristle when they keep seeing
> changes, and to them, it's just one loss after another, I suppose.
> 
> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
> except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
> 
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> I once had a parishioner walk out just before an Advent service; he
>> checked all the hymn numbers and saw there were no Christmas carol!
>> I learned later that that was just the last straw--he and his wife had
>> gone to her Lutheran church earlier that morning, as they always did, and
>> they didn't have any Christmas carols, either!  He said he wasn't coming
>> back--and he never did!
>> 
>>> On Jun 12, 2017, at 10:15 AM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good heavens! And that's why "Catholics can't sing", I guess. ~smdh~
>> Music
>>> has caused me to leave, or at least decide not to attend, more than one
>>> church. I guess RCs don't have that choice, though. They're "assigned" to
>>> the parish they live in, more or less. Although my aunt, who was a
>> convert,
>>> absolutely refused to attend the church behind their building in NYC,
>> which
>>> was supposedly their parish church, because she could not stand the
>> priest,
>>> and she and my uncle went farther downtown to another parish.
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 11:41 PM, Cantor03--- via Magdalen <
>>> magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I usually associate clergy-musician disputes with
>>>> Anglicans and Protestants, but there's been a sad
>>>> dispute chapter played out locally at one of the large
>>>> Roman Catholic churches.
>>>> 
>>>> The organist of this parish and his wife, who were organist
>>>> and choir directors respectively, are leaving their positions
>>>> which they have held for 31+ years.  It's the old situation
>>>> where a new pastor arrived, and he "disliked music," and
>>>> in particular "hated" the pipe organ which the church had just
>>>> rebuilt for $250,000.
>>>> 
>>>> The pastor first stuck the organist with being the church
>>>> janitor in addition to his musical duties, and a not so veiled
>>>> attempt to get the organist out.  The constant bickering has
>>>> taken it's toll.
>>>> 
>>>> There "will be no music at all" this summer, followed by
>>>> whomever he can come up with in rhe autumn.  This is not
>>>> only un-Christian, but non-canonical.   Most
>>>> Episcopal priests I know of are angels compared to this
>>>> pastor.
>>>> 
>> 


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