[Magdalen] Theological and Liturgical Tidbits - St. John's Abbey.

[Jay Weigel]

Argh. Part of why I find myself more and more going back towards the
Orthodox. Yes, we argue among ourselves, but geez.

On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 10:32 AM, cantor03--- via Magdalen <
magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:

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> TThe monthly Benedictine, "Worship,"periodical came late last week, and
> the issue has a number of subjects related to the 500th Anniversary
> of the Protestant (Lutheran) Reformation.
>
> (1)  There is a discussion of the continuing difficulties Lutherans
> have now as well as during Luther's time, with the theology of the
> "Sacrifice" of the Eucharist.  There is the ongoing horror Lutherans
> have with any mention of sacrifice in the Eucharist because this term
>
> makes it seem to Lutherans that there is a re-sacrifice during the RC Mass,
> and the concept of the one, eternal Sacrifice on Calvary is lost.  The
> RC (and Anglocathlic) concept of the Eucharist as not being constrained
> by time, and that the Eucharist of each Mass IS Calvary is not
> comprehended.
> Lutheran suggestion:  Catholics might avoid using RC Eucharistic Prayer 1,
> the old Gregorian Canon, which is loaded with references to sacrifice.
> This would help ecumenism between Lutherans and Roman Catholics, the
> article says.
>
> 2.  A discussion of the Kyrie, especially as it evolved during the Baroque
> (JS Bach) and later periods into a penitential acclamation.  The article
> confirms what
> I have known for some time that the Kyries were from the East, and were
> originally part of a much more extended litany primarily aimed at praying
> for someone or something.  Thus, instead of Lord/Christ have mercy
> (upon us), the meaning is closer to Lord/Christ hear our prayer.
>
>
> David S.
>