[Magdalen] Theological and Liturgical Tidbits - St. John's Abbey.

[Grace Cangialosi]

I actually like the MP and EP offices out of the New Zealand PB, as do many clergy I know.
As a matter of fact ( true confession time), I pretty much prefer the NZPB.

> On Nov 9, 2017, at 6:33 AM, Simon Kershaw <simon at kershaw.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> Change comes eventually, even in Rome.
> 
> It's a bit like the revision of the daily office in the Church of England.
> In the 1970s and 1980s there was much work on revision of the Eucharist,
> but the standard comment from liturgists was that there was no need or
> desire to revise Morning and Evening prayer which were nigh on perfect in
> their Cranmerian state. These people had grown up and been formed with
> Cranmer's version, like generations before them. The version in the ASB
> wasn't much more than a rendition into "you" language.
> 
> It took a later generation of liturgists to produce "Celebrating Common
> Prayer" outside the official revision process, and another decade before
> the CofE adopted this revision of the Office. Although there are still
> plenty of people who use the traditional BCP forms, especially for
> "formal" Sunday services, I suspect that the vast majority of CofE clergy
> and laity who say the daily office (as the clergy are canonically supposed
> to do) use the modern Common Worship forms.
> 
> This is similar to Max Planck's observation that "A new scientific truth
> does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the
> light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new
> generation grows up that is familiar with it." Max Planck, 1906
> 
> Neatly (and indeed liturgically :-) ) paraphrased as
>  "Science advances one funeral at a time".
> 
> simon
> 
> cantor03--- via Magdalen wrote:
>> Roman Stuff:
>> 
>> There was another article in "Worship" in which Pope Francis states that
>> the new Roman Rite is complete in every way, and there is no need to use
>> older worship forms.  In this he disagrees with all the other Popes since
>> Vatican-2.
>> 
>> I realize, however, that a large part of this is that since Francis was
>> ordained
>> priest in 1969, he has no clerical experience with the Tridentine Liturgy,
>> and has
>> probably never seen a well done Solemn High Mass using that form.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Simon Kershaw
> simon at kershaw.org.uk
> Saint Ives, Cambridgeshire
>