[Magdalen] Fwd: Re: silence?

Jay Weigel jay.weigel at gmail.com
Mon Oct 16 14:39:23 UTC 2017 

This article in Wikipedia is a little bit "off" but has some good basic
information. Some of the Old Rite groups are a little bit crazy; most are
not. It lists the group of the church I am going to as "minor", which it is
also not. But it's Wikipedia, what can I say? Actually, the Old Ritualists
mostly are in good accord with one another, at least in this part of the
world, and with the rest of Russian Orthodoxy, except for ROCOR, which is
kind of jealous of its position in the West.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Believers


On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 10:05 PM, Christopher Hart <cervus51 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Old Catholics who are in communion with the See of Utrecht are in full
> communion with the Episcopal Church. Like many denominations, however,
> there are splinter groups of Old Catholics who may or may not be in
> communion with us, although they may practice open communion.
>
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 9:38 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I’d not heard of the Old Rite Orthodox—just the Old Catholics, who, I
> > believe, are in communion with us. The summer I was in Berea the Orthodox
> > campus chaplain, who was a woman, invited us to worship there, and I was
> > surprised to learn that they had closed communion. Up until then I had
> > thought that was only true of the Roman church.
> >
> > > On Oct 15, 2017, at 6:26 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > This branch of Old Rite Orthodox are very welcoming to all. They are
> > > Russian in origin, like the OCA, but though they retain a Russian
> flavor,
> > > because they have been, as Fr. Kyrill says, "chased out" of so many
> > places,
> > > they aren't particular about who comes to worship with them, so long as
> > > they  accept that God is one in three persons, holy and indivisible.
> They
> > > will admit anyone to communion who has been baptized in the name of the
> > > Trinity. I don't really have to be chrismated to be part of the church.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Michael Bishop <
> rev at michaelbishop.name>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Good to her from you,Lynn. I realised after I had sent my note to you
> > that
> > >> it had not gone to the list so had to forward it.
> > >> Nottinghamshire is very much Robin Hood Country. Years ago I had a
> year
> > >> holding the office of chaplain to the High Sheriff of Nottighamshire -
> > the
> > >> High Sheriff being the office held by Robin Hood's traditional enemy.
> > >> Sherwood Forest is just a few miles from where I now live. I grew up
> in
> > >> Nottigham,
> > >>
> > >> ....
> > >> ....
> > >> God bless
> > >>
> > >> Michael Bishop
> > >> rev at michaelbishop.name
> > >>
> > >>> On 15/10/2017 21:16, Lynn Ronkainen wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> nice to hear from you Michael!
> > >>>
> > >>> you wrote: I now live in a bungalow in  Nottinghamshire
> > >>>
> > >>> sounds very *Robin Hood*  to my American ears : )
> > >>>
> > >>> Did you know that NYCity is also often referred to as Gotham?
> > >>>
> > >>> Lynn, peeking into the pub and getting back to many tasks at hand.
> > >>>
> > >>> website: www.ichthysdesigns.com
> > >>>
> > >>> When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I
> have
> > >>> not a single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You
> > gave
> > >>> me." attributed to Erma Bombeck
> > >>>
> > >>> "Mercy and compassion are more than personal options. They are the
> > >>> antidotes to that fear and hatred." Mark Singel
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --------------------------------------------------
> > >>> From: "Michael Bishop" <rev at michaelbishop.name>
> > >>> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 2:57 PM
> > >>> To: "Magdalen" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
> > >>> Subject: [Magdalen] Fwd: Re:  silence?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > >>>> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] silence?
> > >>>> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 20:56:18 +0100
> > >>>> From: Michael Bishop <rev at michaelbishop.name>
> > >>>> Reply-To: rev at michaelbishop.name
> > >>>> To: Marilyn Cepeda <mcepeda514 at gmail.com>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I am here. For me it has been a time of great change. I retired from
> > the
> > >>>> stipendiary ministry just a month ago and of course had to move home
> > as
> > >>>> well - a major change after almost 21 years as rector of my 8
> parishes
> > >>>> in the diocese of Derby (England). I now live in a bungalow in the
> > >>>> neighbouring county of Nottinghamshire (Diocese of Southwell &
> > >>>> Nottingham). The parish I live in is Keyworth which is a large
> village
> > >>>> to which are yoled the neighbouring small rural parishes of
> > >>>> Stanton-on-the-Wolds and Bunny. I hope in due course to take up some
> > >>>> retired ministry in the area - but the rule here is that retired
> > clergy
> > >>>> are expected to take 6 months out of active ministry after
> retirement.
> > >>>> Life seems very strange with no rushing about taking services and it
> > >>>> will certainly take quite a time to adjust.
> > >>>> Listsibs may be interested to know that just up the road from me is
> > the
> > >>>> village of Gotham - presumably the source of the name which passed
> on
> > >>>> somehow to Gotham City of Superman fame. This Gotham is however,
> > >>>> pronounced Goatham. Locally it is a place of which there are many
> > tales
> > >>>> about the "Wise men of Gotham"
> > >>>> One tale is that the three wise men of Gotham found a cuckoo. They
> > >>>> wanted to keep it so they planted a bush round it to stop it
> leaving -
> > >>>> but the bird flew out from the top! The local pub is named "The
> Cuckoo
> > >>>> Bush"
> > >>>> There is also a popular rhyme about them:
> > >>>> Three wise men of Gotham
> > >>>> went to sea in a bowl
> > >>>> Had the bowl been stronger
> > >>>> My tale would have been longer!
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ....
> > >>>> ....
> > >>>> God bless
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Michael Bishop
> > >>>> rev at michaelbishop.name
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On 15/10/2017 20:40, Marilyn Cepeda wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I am here. I am here in Scotland that is. We visited St Columba’s
> > >>>>> Footsteps, the well, and the coastline of Kintyre Peninsula. One
> > >>>>> serendipitous unplanned stop was abbey ruins  Saddell Abbey.
> > Beautiful,
> > >>>>> special places. We are looking for hurricane Ophelia tomorrow so
> not
> > >>>>> sure
> > >>>>> what our plans will be!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 5:46 PM Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I'm here. I check in a couple of times a day and all I find is that
> > my
> > >>>>>> gmail is inundated with everything BUT pub posts. I had a crazy
> week
> > >>>>>> last
> > >>>>>> week, starting with the weekend which was consumed with the Page
> > County
> > >>>>>> Heritage Festival, where we did very well, the equivalent of a
> good
> > >>>>>> month
> > >>>>>> at the gallery, but I managed to get a case of heat exhaustion on
> > the
> > >>>>>> first
> > >>>>>> day and felt like @#$%^! the whole time. Then rock club on Monday,
> > >>>>>> work at
> > >>>>>> the gallery on Tuesday and Wednesday, and finally I could breathe
> on
> > >>>>>> Thursday.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I guess I can now tell that I am attending an Orthodox church in
> the
> > >>>>>> area.
> > >>>>>> It's a very small Old Rite Russian Orthodox Church just up the
> road
> > in
> > >>>>>> Mt.
> > >>>>>> Jackson and I have been attending for a couple of months now and
> > going
> > >>>>>> to
> > >>>>>> adult study classes. I feel very much at home there and am giving
> > >>>>>> serious
> > >>>>>> thought to being chrismated at some time in the future. The
> priest,
> > >>>>>> Father
> > >>>>>> Kyrill, and his wife, Matushka Dena Theodora, are both former
> > >>>>>> Episcopalians
> > >>>>>> who did *not* leave over things like OW or the prayer book, but
> > simply
> > >>>>>> because they felt drawn to orthodoxy as I have since I was fairly
> > >>>>>> young.
> > >>>>>> But I won't leave the Pub!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 8:39 AM, Marion Thompson <
> > >>>>>> marionwhitevale at gmail.com>
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Personally busy up to here.  Give me strength, especially to get
> > >>>>>>> through
> > >>>>>>> tomorrow:  weekly volunteer at the free breakfast at a little
> local
> > >>>>>>> bar
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> resto 7 to 9 a.m., MP at the rectory at 9:30, funeral and
> > reception at
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> 11,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> some time at home to  get cleaned up for a long drive (1 1//2
> hrs)
> > >>>>>>> into
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> big city for a wine and cheese the Archbishop is hosting for the
> > >>>>>>> now-defunct Diocesan Chaplaincy Committee of which I was a member
> > for
> > >>>>>>> a
> > >>>>>>> whole bunch of years, then the long drive home again.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Marion, a pilgrim
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On 10/15/2017 8:20 AM, Ginga Wilder wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I haven't had a Magdalen post since Oct 11th.  I have been in
> > >>>>>>>> Charlotte
> > >>>>>>>> caring for my daughter-in-law following surgery and have not
> > posted
> > >>>>>>>> much
> > >>>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>>> anything.  She (Christina) is fine.  I also visited Ginny and
> > Barbie
> > >>>>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>>> Winston Salem, NC where they have recently moved.  Ginny
> accepted
> > a
> > >>>>>>>> call
> > >>>>>>>> as
> > >>>>>>>> rector of St. Anne's Episcopal Church there.  Good to be with
> > family
> > >>>>>>>> all
> > >>>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>>> whom live in NC now, and good to know that I can still drive 600
> > >>>>>>>> miles
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> three days.  John does the driving in our family but he did not
> go
> > on
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> this
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> trip.  As for John and me, we wait for the SC Supreme Court to
> > >>>>>>>> announce
> > >>>>>>>> whether they will rehear the property case and also to hear the
> > >>>>>>>> results
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> mediation in both the federal case and the state case.  The
> > Lawrence
> > >>>>>>>> breakaways have a PR campaign going that is maddening to follow.
> > >>>>>>>> Frustrating does not come close to covering the feelings I have,
> > but
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> that
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> will do for now.  Our 'side' (TEC and TECSC) has chosen not to
> > speak
> > >>>>>>>> publicly or to rebut what Lawrence, et al are putting out about
> > 'us.'
> > >>>>>>>> GRR.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Off to church.
> > >>>>>>>> Ginga
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source
> > >>>>>>>> =link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon>
> > >>>>>>>> Virus-free.
> > >>>>>>>> www.avast.com
> > >>>>>>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source
> > >>>>>>>> =link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link>
> > >>>>>>>> <#m_-8880720227221804648_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 7:42 AM, Judy Fleener <
> fleenerj at gmail.com
> > >
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Did the list disappear while I was gone?  Is Brian OK? Did
> Everyone
> > >>>>>>>> miss
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Samuel Isaac Joseph Schereschewsky
> > >>>>>>>>> <http://justus.anglican.org/resources/bio/267.html>Day?  It
> > falls
> > >>>>>>>>> on
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> our
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> wedding anniversary so I remember.  If I manage to say the
> morning
> > >>>>>>>>> office I
> > >>>>>>>>> will remember, too, because it is commemorated by OJN.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> My love to you all.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>> Judy Fleener, ObJN,SSH
> > >>>>>>>>> Western Michigan
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Christopher Hart
>
> List Mail Address: cervus51 at gmail.com
> Personal Mail: cervus at veritasliberat.net
> Twitter: @cervus51
>

More information about the Magdalen mailing list