[Magdalen] Fwd: Re: silence?
Grace Cangialosi
gracecan at gmail.com
Mon Oct 16 15:43:17 UTC 2017
Didn’t we have a listsib—Susan Hutchison, I believe—who was an Old Catholic priest?
> On Oct 16, 2017, at 10:39 AM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This article in Wikipedia is a little bit "off" but has some good basic
> information. Some of the Old Rite groups are a little bit crazy; most are
> not. It lists the group of the church I am going to as "minor", which it is
> also not. But it's Wikipedia, what can I say? Actually, the Old Ritualists
> mostly are in good accord with one another, at least in this part of the
> world, and with the rest of Russian Orthodoxy, except for ROCOR, which is
> kind of jealous of its position in the West.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Believers
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 10:05 PM, Christopher Hart <cervus51 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Old Catholics who are in communion with the See of Utrecht are in full
>> communion with the Episcopal Church. Like many denominations, however,
>> there are splinter groups of Old Catholics who may or may not be in
>> communion with us, although they may practice open communion.
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 9:38 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’d not heard of the Old Rite Orthodox—just the Old Catholics, who, I
>>> believe, are in communion with us. The summer I was in Berea the Orthodox
>>> campus chaplain, who was a woman, invited us to worship there, and I was
>>> surprised to learn that they had closed communion. Up until then I had
>>> thought that was only true of the Roman church.
>>>
>>>> On Oct 15, 2017, at 6:26 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This branch of Old Rite Orthodox are very welcoming to all. They are
>>>> Russian in origin, like the OCA, but though they retain a Russian
>> flavor,
>>>> because they have been, as Fr. Kyrill says, "chased out" of so many
>>> places,
>>>> they aren't particular about who comes to worship with them, so long as
>>>> they accept that God is one in three persons, holy and indivisible.
>> They
>>>> will admit anyone to communion who has been baptized in the name of the
>>>> Trinity. I don't really have to be chrismated to be part of the church.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Michael Bishop <
>> rev at michaelbishop.name>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good to her from you,Lynn. I realised after I had sent my note to you
>>> that
>>>>> it had not gone to the list so had to forward it.
>>>>> Nottinghamshire is very much Robin Hood Country. Years ago I had a
>> year
>>>>> holding the office of chaplain to the High Sheriff of Nottighamshire -
>>> the
>>>>> High Sheriff being the office held by Robin Hood's traditional enemy.
>>>>> Sherwood Forest is just a few miles from where I now live. I grew up
>> in
>>>>> Nottigham,
>>>>>
>>>>> ....
>>>>> ....
>>>>> God bless
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael Bishop
>>>>> rev at michaelbishop.name
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15/10/2017 21:16, Lynn Ronkainen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> nice to hear from you Michael!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you wrote: I now live in a bungalow in Nottinghamshire
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sounds very *Robin Hood* to my American ears : )
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you know that NYCity is also often referred to as Gotham?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lynn, peeking into the pub and getting back to many tasks at hand.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> website: www.ichthysdesigns.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I
>> have
>>>>>> not a single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You
>>> gave
>>>>>> me." attributed to Erma Bombeck
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Mercy and compassion are more than personal options. They are the
>>>>>> antidotes to that fear and hatred." Mark Singel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> From: "Michael Bishop" <rev at michaelbishop.name>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 2:57 PM
>>>>>> To: "Magdalen" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
>>>>>> Subject: [Magdalen] Fwd: Re: silence?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] silence?
>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 20:56:18 +0100
>>>>>>> From: Michael Bishop <rev at michaelbishop.name>
>>>>>>> Reply-To: rev at michaelbishop.name
>>>>>>> To: Marilyn Cepeda <mcepeda514 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am here. For me it has been a time of great change. I retired from
>>> the
>>>>>>> stipendiary ministry just a month ago and of course had to move home
>>> as
>>>>>>> well - a major change after almost 21 years as rector of my 8
>> parishes
>>>>>>> in the diocese of Derby (England). I now live in a bungalow in the
>>>>>>> neighbouring county of Nottinghamshire (Diocese of Southwell &
>>>>>>> Nottingham). The parish I live in is Keyworth which is a large
>> village
>>>>>>> to which are yoled the neighbouring small rural parishes of
>>>>>>> Stanton-on-the-Wolds and Bunny. I hope in due course to take up some
>>>>>>> retired ministry in the area - but the rule here is that retired
>>> clergy
>>>>>>> are expected to take 6 months out of active ministry after
>> retirement.
>>>>>>> Life seems very strange with no rushing about taking services and it
>>>>>>> will certainly take quite a time to adjust.
>>>>>>> Listsibs may be interested to know that just up the road from me is
>>> the
>>>>>>> village of Gotham - presumably the source of the name which passed
>> on
>>>>>>> somehow to Gotham City of Superman fame. This Gotham is however,
>>>>>>> pronounced Goatham. Locally it is a place of which there are many
>>> tales
>>>>>>> about the "Wise men of Gotham"
>>>>>>> One tale is that the three wise men of Gotham found a cuckoo. They
>>>>>>> wanted to keep it so they planted a bush round it to stop it
>> leaving -
>>>>>>> but the bird flew out from the top! The local pub is named "The
>> Cuckoo
>>>>>>> Bush"
>>>>>>> There is also a popular rhyme about them:
>>>>>>> Three wise men of Gotham
>>>>>>> went to sea in a bowl
>>>>>>> Had the bowl been stronger
>>>>>>> My tale would have been longer!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ....
>>>>>>> ....
>>>>>>> God bless
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michael Bishop
>>>>>>> rev at michaelbishop.name
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 15/10/2017 20:40, Marilyn Cepeda wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am here. I am here in Scotland that is. We visited St Columba’s
>>>>>>>> Footsteps, the well, and the coastline of Kintyre Peninsula. One
>>>>>>>> serendipitous unplanned stop was abbey ruins Saddell Abbey.
>>> Beautiful,
>>>>>>>> special places. We are looking for hurricane Ophelia tomorrow so
>> not
>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>> what our plans will be!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 5:46 PM Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm here. I check in a couple of times a day and all I find is that
>>> my
>>>>>>>>> gmail is inundated with everything BUT pub posts. I had a crazy
>> week
>>>>>>>>> last
>>>>>>>>> week, starting with the weekend which was consumed with the Page
>>> County
>>>>>>>>> Heritage Festival, where we did very well, the equivalent of a
>> good
>>>>>>>>> month
>>>>>>>>> at the gallery, but I managed to get a case of heat exhaustion on
>>> the
>>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>>> day and felt like @#$%^! the whole time. Then rock club on Monday,
>>>>>>>>> work at
>>>>>>>>> the gallery on Tuesday and Wednesday, and finally I could breathe
>> on
>>>>>>>>> Thursday.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I guess I can now tell that I am attending an Orthodox church in
>> the
>>>>>>>>> area.
>>>>>>>>> It's a very small Old Rite Russian Orthodox Church just up the
>> road
>>> in
>>>>>>>>> Mt.
>>>>>>>>> Jackson and I have been attending for a couple of months now and
>>> going
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> adult study classes. I feel very much at home there and am giving
>>>>>>>>> serious
>>>>>>>>> thought to being chrismated at some time in the future. The
>> priest,
>>>>>>>>> Father
>>>>>>>>> Kyrill, and his wife, Matushka Dena Theodora, are both former
>>>>>>>>> Episcopalians
>>>>>>>>> who did *not* leave over things like OW or the prayer book, but
>>> simply
>>>>>>>>> because they felt drawn to orthodoxy as I have since I was fairly
>>>>>>>>> young.
>>>>>>>>> But I won't leave the Pub!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 8:39 AM, Marion Thompson <
>>>>>>>>> marionwhitevale at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Personally busy up to here. Give me strength, especially to get
>>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>>> tomorrow: weekly volunteer at the free breakfast at a little
>> local
>>>>>>>>>> bar
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> resto 7 to 9 a.m., MP at the rectory at 9:30, funeral and
>>> reception at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 11,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> some time at home to get cleaned up for a long drive (1 1//2
>> hrs)
>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> big city for a wine and cheese the Archbishop is hosting for the
>>>>>>>>>> now-defunct Diocesan Chaplaincy Committee of which I was a member
>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> whole bunch of years, then the long drive home again.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Marion, a pilgrim
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/15/2017 8:20 AM, Ginga Wilder wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I haven't had a Magdalen post since Oct 11th. I have been in
>>>>>>>>>>> Charlotte
>>>>>>>>>>> caring for my daughter-in-law following surgery and have not
>>> posted
>>>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> anything. She (Christina) is fine. I also visited Ginny and
>>> Barbie
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> Winston Salem, NC where they have recently moved. Ginny
>> accepted
>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> call
>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>> rector of St. Anne's Episcopal Church there. Good to be with
>>> family
>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> whom live in NC now, and good to know that I can still drive 600
>>>>>>>>>>> miles
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> three days. John does the driving in our family but he did not
>> go
>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> trip. As for John and me, we wait for the SC Supreme Court to
>>>>>>>>>>> announce
>>>>>>>>>>> whether they will rehear the property case and also to hear the
>>>>>>>>>>> results
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> mediation in both the federal case and the state case. The
>>> Lawrence
>>>>>>>>>>> breakaways have a PR campaign going that is maddening to follow.
>>>>>>>>>>> Frustrating does not come close to covering the feelings I have,
>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> will do for now. Our 'side' (TEC and TECSC) has chosen not to
>>> speak
>>>>>>>>>>> publicly or to rebut what Lawrence, et al are putting out about
>>> 'us.'
>>>>>>>>>>> GRR.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Off to church.
>>>>>>>>>>> Ginga
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 7:42 AM, Judy Fleener <
>> fleenerj at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Did the list disappear while I was gone? Is Brian OK? Did
>> Everyone
>>>>>>>>>>> miss
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Samuel Isaac Joseph Schereschewsky
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://justus.anglican.org/resources/bio/267.html>Day? It
>>> falls
>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wedding anniversary so I remember. If I manage to say the
>> morning
>>>>>>>>>>>> office I
>>>>>>>>>>>> will remember, too, because it is commemorated by OJN.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My love to you all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Judy Fleener, ObJN,SSH
>>>>>>>>>>>> Western Michigan
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Christopher Hart
>>
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>>
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