[Magdalen] Fwd: Re: silence?

Jay Weigel jay.weigel at gmail.com
Mon Oct 16 17:03:42 UTC 2017 

I'd forgotten....she's so quiet i thought she'd left the pub, and maybe she
has.

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Scott Knitter <scottknitter at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Sandra Hutchinson of Massachusetts is a priest of the Independent Catholic
> Christian Church.
>
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Didn’t we have a listsib—Susan Hutchison, I believe—who was an Old
> > Catholic priest?
> >
> > > On Oct 16, 2017, at 10:39 AM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > This article in Wikipedia is a little bit "off" but has some good basic
> > > information. Some of the Old Rite groups are a little bit crazy; most
> are
> > > not. It lists the group of the church I am going to as "minor", which
> it
> > is
> > > also not. But it's Wikipedia, what can I say? Actually, the Old
> > Ritualists
> > > mostly are in good accord with one another, at least in this part of
> the
> > > world, and with the rest of Russian Orthodoxy, except for ROCOR, which
> is
> > > kind of jealous of its position in the West.
> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Believers
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 10:05 PM, Christopher Hart <cervus51 at gmail.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Old Catholics who are in communion with the See of Utrecht are in full
> > >> communion with the Episcopal Church. Like many denominations, however,
> > >> there are splinter groups of Old Catholics who may or may not be in
> > >> communion with us, although they may practice open communion.
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 9:38 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com
> >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I’d not heard of the Old Rite Orthodox—just the Old Catholics, who, I
> > >>> believe, are in communion with us. The summer I was in Berea the
> > Orthodox
> > >>> campus chaplain, who was a woman, invited us to worship there, and I
> > was
> > >>> surprised to learn that they had closed communion. Up until then I
> had
> > >>> thought that was only true of the Roman church.
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Oct 15, 2017, at 6:26 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This branch of Old Rite Orthodox are very welcoming to all. They are
> > >>>> Russian in origin, like the OCA, but though they retain a Russian
> > >> flavor,
> > >>>> because they have been, as Fr. Kyrill says, "chased out" of so many
> > >>> places,
> > >>>> they aren't particular about who comes to worship with them, so long
> > as
> > >>>> they  accept that God is one in three persons, holy and indivisible.
> > >> They
> > >>>> will admit anyone to communion who has been baptized in the name of
> > the
> > >>>> Trinity. I don't really have to be chrismated to be part of the
> > church.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Michael Bishop <
> > >> rev at michaelbishop.name>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Good to her from you,Lynn. I realised after I had sent my note to
> you
> > >>> that
> > >>>>> it had not gone to the list so had to forward it.
> > >>>>> Nottinghamshire is very much Robin Hood Country. Years ago I had a
> > >> year
> > >>>>> holding the office of chaplain to the High Sheriff of
> Nottighamshire
> > -
> > >>> the
> > >>>>> High Sheriff being the office held by Robin Hood's traditional
> enemy.
> > >>>>> Sherwood Forest is just a few miles from where I now live. I grew
> up
> > >> in
> > >>>>> Nottigham,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> ....
> > >>>>> ....
> > >>>>> God bless
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Michael Bishop
> > >>>>> rev at michaelbishop.name
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 15/10/2017 21:16, Lynn Ronkainen wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> nice to hear from you Michael!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> you wrote: I now live in a bungalow in  Nottinghamshire
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> sounds very *Robin Hood*  to my American ears : )
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Did you know that NYCity is also often referred to as Gotham?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Lynn, peeking into the pub and getting back to many tasks at hand.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> website: www.ichthysdesigns.com
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I
> > >> have
> > >>>>>> not a single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything
> > You
> > >>> gave
> > >>>>>> me." attributed to Erma Bombeck
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> "Mercy and compassion are more than personal options. They are the
> > >>>>>> antidotes to that fear and hatred." Mark Singel
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>> From: "Michael Bishop" <rev at michaelbishop.name>
> > >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 2:57 PM
> > >>>>>> To: "Magdalen" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
> > >>>>>> Subject: [Magdalen] Fwd: Re:  silence?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] silence?
> > >>>>>>> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 20:56:18 +0100
> > >>>>>>> From: Michael Bishop <rev at michaelbishop.name>
> > >>>>>>> Reply-To: rev at michaelbishop.name
> > >>>>>>> To: Marilyn Cepeda <mcepeda514 at gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I am here. For me it has been a time of great change. I retired
> > from
> > >>> the
> > >>>>>>> stipendiary ministry just a month ago and of course had to move
> > home
> > >>> as
> > >>>>>>> well - a major change after almost 21 years as rector of my 8
> > >> parishes
> > >>>>>>> in the diocese of Derby (England). I now live in a bungalow in
> the
> > >>>>>>> neighbouring county of Nottinghamshire (Diocese of Southwell &
> > >>>>>>> Nottingham). The parish I live in is Keyworth which is a large
> > >> village
> > >>>>>>> to which are yoled the neighbouring small rural parishes of
> > >>>>>>> Stanton-on-the-Wolds and Bunny. I hope in due course to take up
> > some
> > >>>>>>> retired ministry in the area - but the rule here is that retired
> > >>> clergy
> > >>>>>>> are expected to take 6 months out of active ministry after
> > >> retirement.
> > >>>>>>> Life seems very strange with no rushing about taking services and
> > it
> > >>>>>>> will certainly take quite a time to adjust.
> > >>>>>>> Listsibs may be interested to know that just up the road from me
> is
> > >>> the
> > >>>>>>> village of Gotham - presumably the source of the name which
> passed
> > >> on
> > >>>>>>> somehow to Gotham City of Superman fame. This Gotham is however,
> > >>>>>>> pronounced Goatham. Locally it is a place of which there are many
> > >>> tales
> > >>>>>>> about the "Wise men of Gotham"
> > >>>>>>> One tale is that the three wise men of Gotham found a cuckoo.
> They
> > >>>>>>> wanted to keep it so they planted a bush round it to stop it
> > >> leaving -
> > >>>>>>> but the bird flew out from the top! The local pub is named "The
> > >> Cuckoo
> > >>>>>>> Bush"
> > >>>>>>> There is also a popular rhyme about them:
> > >>>>>>> Three wise men of Gotham
> > >>>>>>> went to sea in a bowl
> > >>>>>>> Had the bowl been stronger
> > >>>>>>> My tale would have been longer!
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> ....
> > >>>>>>> ....
> > >>>>>>> God bless
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Michael Bishop
> > >>>>>>> rev at michaelbishop.name
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On 15/10/2017 20:40, Marilyn Cepeda wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I am here. I am here in Scotland that is. We visited St
> Columba’s
> > >>>>>>>> Footsteps, the well, and the coastline of Kintyre Peninsula. One
> > >>>>>>>> serendipitous unplanned stop was abbey ruins  Saddell Abbey.
> > >>> Beautiful,
> > >>>>>>>> special places. We are looking for hurricane Ophelia tomorrow so
> > >> not
> > >>>>>>>> sure
> > >>>>>>>> what our plans will be!
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 5:46 PM Jay Weigel <
> jay.weigel at gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I'm here. I check in a couple of times a day and all I find is
> > that
> > >>> my
> > >>>>>>>>> gmail is inundated with everything BUT pub posts. I had a crazy
> > >> week
> > >>>>>>>>> last
> > >>>>>>>>> week, starting with the weekend which was consumed with the
> Page
> > >>> County
> > >>>>>>>>> Heritage Festival, where we did very well, the equivalent of a
> > >> good
> > >>>>>>>>> month
> > >>>>>>>>> at the gallery, but I managed to get a case of heat exhaustion
> on
> > >>> the
> > >>>>>>>>> first
> > >>>>>>>>> day and felt like @#$%^! the whole time. Then rock club on
> > Monday,
> > >>>>>>>>> work at
> > >>>>>>>>> the gallery on Tuesday and Wednesday, and finally I could
> breathe
> > >> on
> > >>>>>>>>> Thursday.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I guess I can now tell that I am attending an Orthodox church
> in
> > >> the
> > >>>>>>>>> area.
> > >>>>>>>>> It's a very small Old Rite Russian Orthodox Church just up the
> > >> road
> > >>> in
> > >>>>>>>>> Mt.
> > >>>>>>>>> Jackson and I have been attending for a couple of months now
> and
> > >>> going
> > >>>>>>>>> to
> > >>>>>>>>> adult study classes. I feel very much at home there and am
> giving
> > >>>>>>>>> serious
> > >>>>>>>>> thought to being chrismated at some time in the future. The
> > >> priest,
> > >>>>>>>>> Father
> > >>>>>>>>> Kyrill, and his wife, Matushka Dena Theodora, are both former
> > >>>>>>>>> Episcopalians
> > >>>>>>>>> who did *not* leave over things like OW or the prayer book, but
> > >>> simply
> > >>>>>>>>> because they felt drawn to orthodoxy as I have since I was
> fairly
> > >>>>>>>>> young.
> > >>>>>>>>> But I won't leave the Pub!
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 8:39 AM, Marion Thompson <
> > >>>>>>>>> marionwhitevale at gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Personally busy up to here.  Give me strength, especially to
> get
> > >>>>>>>>>> through
> > >>>>>>>>>> tomorrow:  weekly volunteer at the free breakfast at a little
> > >> local
> > >>>>>>>>>> bar
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> resto 7 to 9 a.m., MP at the rectory at 9:30, funeral and
> > >>> reception at
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> 11,
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> some time at home to  get cleaned up for a long drive (1 1//2
> > >> hrs)
> > >>>>>>>>>> into
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> big city for a wine and cheese the Archbishop is hosting for
> the
> > >>>>>>>>>> now-defunct Diocesan Chaplaincy Committee of which I was a
> > member
> > >>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>> a
> > >>>>>>>>>> whole bunch of years, then the long drive home again.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Marion, a pilgrim
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On 10/15/2017 8:20 AM, Ginga Wilder wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> I haven't had a Magdalen post since Oct 11th.  I have been in
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Charlotte
> > >>>>>>>>>>> caring for my daughter-in-law following surgery and have not
> > >>> posted
> > >>>>>>>>>>> much
> > >>>>>>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>>>>>> anything.  She (Christina) is fine.  I also visited Ginny and
> > >>> Barbie
> > >>>>>>>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Winston Salem, NC where they have recently moved.  Ginny
> > >> accepted
> > >>> a
> > >>>>>>>>>>> call
> > >>>>>>>>>>> as
> > >>>>>>>>>>> rector of St. Anne's Episcopal Church there.  Good to be with
> > >>> family
> > >>>>>>>>>>> all
> > >>>>>>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>>>>>> whom live in NC now, and good to know that I can still drive
> > 600
> > >>>>>>>>>>> miles
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> in
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> three days.  John does the driving in our family but he did
> not
> > >> go
> > >>> on
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> this
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> trip.  As for John and me, we wait for the SC Supreme Court to
> > >>>>>>>>>>> announce
> > >>>>>>>>>>> whether they will rehear the property case and also to hear
> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> results
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> mediation in both the federal case and the state case.  The
> > >>> Lawrence
> > >>>>>>>>>>> breakaways have a PR campaign going that is maddening to
> > follow.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Frustrating does not come close to covering the feelings I
> > have,
> > >>> but
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> that
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> will do for now.  Our 'side' (TEC and TECSC) has chosen not to
> > >>> speak
> > >>>>>>>>>>> publicly or to rebut what Lawrence, et al are putting out
> about
> > >>> 'us.'
> > >>>>>>>>>>> GRR.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Off to church.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Ginga
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source
> > >>>>>>>>>>> =link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=
> > icon>
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> > link>
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> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 7:42 AM, Judy Fleener <
> > >> fleenerj at gmail.com
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Did the list disappear while I was gone?  Is Brian OK? Did
> > >> Everyone
> > >>>>>>>>>>> miss
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Samuel Isaac Joseph Schereschewsky
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://justus.anglican.org/resources/bio/267.html>Day?  It
> > >>> falls
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> on
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> our
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> wedding anniversary so I remember.  If I manage to say the
> > >> morning
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> office I
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> will remember, too, because it is commemorated by OJN.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> My love to you all.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Judy Fleener, ObJN,SSH
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Western Michigan
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >> Christopher Hart
> > >>
> > >> List Mail Address: cervus51 at gmail.com
> > >> Personal Mail: cervus at veritasliberat.net
> > >> Twitter: @cervus51
> > >>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Scott R. Knitter
> Edgewater, Chicago, Illinois USA
>

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