In a message dated 10/16/2017 10:39:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jay.weigel at gmail.com writes: Some of the Old Rite groups are a little bit crazy; most are not. It lists the group of the church I am going to as "minor", >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Old Believers have an elegant cross. I have a couple of such here and there in the house. David S.