[Magdalen] Our "sh*thole" president.

[Lynn Ronkainen]

Renouncing one's country of birth is a part of the citizenship ritual/law in 
the US.

Lynn,  musing on how much of the immigrant talk has revealed the early 20C 
in ways even I, who thought I was well educated in history on a variety of 
planes, had not realized. The xenophobia before and after WW1 for example. 
Musing on the greater metro Detroit area in my youth - *many* suburban 
families were WW2 war refugees, resettled in suburban Detroit - some adapted 
and assimilated quickly, some not so much. Also remembering a colleague of 
my fathers, also a Mechanical Engineer, whose family walked across the 
frozen Detroit River from Canada when he was a 5 year old child, on a cold 
cloudy night and ultimately became citizens.

Nothing is simple.
Lynn (again)

website: www.ichthysdesigns.com

When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have not a 
single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave me." 
attributed to Erma Bombeck

"Mercy and compassion are more than personal options. They are the antidotes 
to that fear and hatred." Mark Singel


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From: "cantor03--- via Magdalen" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 3:25 PM
To: <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
Cc: <cantor03 at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Our "sh*thole" president.

> By coincidence, my maternal grandparents would have
> passed Trump approval.  I have a framed certificate dating
> from 1865 showing that they "renounced" the King of Norway,
> and expressed intent for obtaining citizenship in the USA
> (Philadelphia, 1865).  I suspect they were not handing out
> certificates when the paternal ancestors arrived at New
> Rochelle, NY fleeing Louis XIV and Cardinal Richelieu
> (1688).
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>
>
> David Strang.
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> In a message dated 1/12/2018 4:15:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
> houstonklr at gmail.com writes:
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>
> No, he stood next to the leader of Norway that either earlier in the day 
> or
> for sure the day before, so it may have been the first country that came 
> to
> mind....