[Magdalen] The latest of Prayer Book Revision

[Ginga Wilder]

Thanks for clarification, Chad.  I did know that about the availability of
ss marriages.  I am finding it difficult to follow GC79 -- too much going
on here and also in the two houses.

Acutally, I agree with moving to translate new liturgies into the other
languages.  How awful for people to have to worship without a text...BCP is
a fine teaching tool and I'm glad it will be made available in several
other languages of TEC worshipers.  I was astounded to learn that speakers
of languages other than English were being so blatantly excluded.

As you have explained, this seems like a good compromise.  I especially
'love' that we can continue to use '79.  I especially appreciate the
baptismal service.  Especially this:
Heavenly Father, we thank you that by water and the Holy
Spirit you have bestowed upon *these* your servants the
forgiveness of sin, and have raised *them* to the new life of
grace. Sustain *them,* O Lord, in your Holy Spirit. Give *them*
an inquiring and discerning heart, the courage to will and to
persevere, a spirit to know and to love you, and the gift of joy
and wonder in all your works. *Amen*.

Chad, thank you for putting the BCP online for us to use.  A true gift.

Ginga

On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 7:37 PM Charles Wohlers <chadwohl at satucket.com>
wrote:

> My reading is, maybe yes, maybe no. So - they may be part of a new Prayer
> Book, or they may continue to live in alternative services. Remember that
> another piece of legislation passed which says that same-sex marriage
> rites
> had to be available in all dioceses.
>
> The only really substantive I see in this legislation is that the 1979 BCP
> will remain in effect after a new Prayer Book comes out. That is, both may
> be used, much as is currently the case in Canada and in the C of E. At
> least, that's the way I read it.
>
> Chad Wohlers
> Woodbury, VT USA
> chadwohl at satucket.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ginga Wilder
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:06 PM
> To: Magdalen
> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] The latest of Prayer Book Revision
>
> John, it is not clear to me from the wording that this 0084 will include
> same gendered marriage rites.  Can you clarify, please?
>
> Thanks,
> Ginga Wilder
>
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 6:23 PM John Robison <friarjohn00 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The HoB sent this piece of substitute legislation to the HoD:
> >
> > https://www.vbinder.net/floor_amendments/84?house=hb&lang=en
> >
> > The Text:
> > Floor Amendment 0084 to resolution A068
> > Proposed by The Rt. Rev. C. Andrew Doyle
> >
> > *Resolved, the House of Deputies concurring, That the 79th General
> > Convention, pursuant to Article X of the Constitution, authorize the
> > ongoing work of liturgical and Prayer Book revision for the future of
> God’s
> > mission through the Episcopal branch of the Jesus movement. And, that it
> > do
> > so upon the core theological work of loving, liberating, life-giving
> > reconciliation and creation care; and be it further*
> >
> > *Resolved, that our methodology be one of a dynamic process for
> discerning
> > common worship, engaging all the baptized, while practicing
> accountability
> > to The Episcopal Church; and be it further*
> >
> > *Resolved, That the 79th General Convention create a Task Force on
> > Liturgical and Prayer Book Revision (TFLPBR), the membership of which
> will
> > be jointly appointed by the Presiding Bishop and the President of the
> > House
> > of Deputies, and will report to the appropriate legislative committee(s)
> > of
> > the 80th General Convention, ensuring that diverse voices of our church
> > are
> > active participants in this liturgical revision by constituting a group
> > with leaders who represent the expertise, gender, age, theology,
> regional,
> > and ethnic diversity of the church, to include, 10 laity, 10 priests or
> > deacons, and 10 Bishops; and be it further*
> >
> > *Resolved, That this Convention memorialize the 1979 Book of Common
> Prayer
> > as a Prayer Book of the church preserving the psalter, liturgies, The
> > Lambeth Quadrilateral, Historic Documents, and Trinitarian Formularies
> > ensuring its continued use; and be it further*
> >
> > *Resolved, That this church continue to engage the deep Baptismal and
> > Eucharistic theology and practice of the 1979 Prayer Book; and be it
> > further*
> >
> > *Resolved, That bishops engage worshiping communities in experimentation
> > and the creation of alternative texts to offer to the wider church, and
> > that each diocese be urged to create a liturgical commission to collect,
> > reflect, teach and share these resources with the TFLPBR; and be it
> > further*
> >
> > *Resolved, That the TFLPBR in consultation with the Standing Commission
> on
> > Structure, Governance, Constitution and Canons is directed to propose to
> > the 80th General Convention revisions to the Constitution and Canons to
> > enable The Episcopal Church to be adaptive in its engagement of future
> > generations of Episcopalians, multiplying, connecting, and disseminating
> > new liturgies for mission, attending to prayer book revision in other
> > provinces of the Anglican Communion; and be it further*
> >
> > *Resolved, That liturgical and Prayer Book revision will continue in
> > faithful adherence to the historic rites of the Church Universal as they
> > have been received and interpreted within the Anglican tradition of 1979
> > Book of Common Prayer, mindful of our existing ecumenical commitments,
> > while also providing space for, encouraging the submission of, and
> > facilitating the perfection of rites that will arise from the continual
> > movement of the Holy Spirit among us and growing insights of our Church;
> > and be it further*
> >
> > *Resolved, That such revision utilize the riches of Holy Scripture and
> our
> > Church’s liturgical, cultural, racial, generational, linguistic, gender,
> > physical ability, class and ethnic diversity in order to share common
> > worship; and be it further*
> >
> > *Resolved, That our liturgical revision utilize inclusive and expansive
> > language and imagery for humanity and divinity; and be it further*
> >
> > *Resolved, That our liturgical revision shall incorporate and express
> > understanding, appreciation, and care of God’s creation; and be it
> > further*
> >
> > *Resolved, That our liturgical revision take into consideration the use
> of
> > emerging technologies which provide access to a broad range of liturgical
> > resources; and be it further*
> >
> > *Resolved, That the SCLM create a professional dynamic equivalence
> > translation of The Book of Common Prayer 1979 and the Enriching Our
> > Worship
> > Series in Spanish, French, and Haitian Creole; and that the SCLM
> diversify
> > the publication formats of new resources, liturgies and rites to include
> > online publishing; and be it further*
> >
> > *Resolved, That this church ensure that, at each step of the revision
> > process, all materials be professionally translated into English,
> Spanish,
> > French, and Haitian Creole, following the principles of dynamic
> > equivalence
> > and that no new rites or liturgical resources be approved by this church
> > until such translations are secured; and be it further*
> >
> > *Resolved, That the TFLPBR shall report to the 80th General Convention;
> > and
> > be it further*
> >
> > *Resolved*, *That there being $201,000 in the proposed budget for the
> > translation of liturgical materials, that the Executive Council be
> > encouraged to identify additional funds in the amount of $200,000 to
> begin
> > this liturgical revision.*
> > This replaces the more troubelsom (to many) A068 with a different
> process.
> >
> > --
> > The Rev. John R. Robison
> >
> > The Old Catholic Church, Provence of the United States.
> > www.TOCCUSA.org
> >
> > "Among the repulsions of atheism for me has been its drastic
> > uninterestingness as an intellectual position." - John Updike
> >
> > "There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life:
> > The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that
> > often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes,
> leading
> > to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal
> > with
> > the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs."  ~John Rogers
> >
>
>