[Magdalen] The latest of Prayer Book Revision

[Ann Markle]

There is at least a Spanish 79 BCP already in existence and use. We had
several copies in TN. Don't know about other languages. I doubt French,
since few in US use that as their first language  (but I wonder if +Pierre
Whalon might have suggested it for his TEC churches in Europe), and I bet
not Haitian Creole, either, since those people are poor and brown.

Ann
The Rev. Ann Markle
Buffalo, NY
ann.markle at aya.yale.edu
www.onewildandpreciouslife.typepad.com


On Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 7:56 PM Ginga Wilder <gingawilder at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for clarification, Chad.  I did know that about the availability of
> ss marriages.  I am finding it difficult to follow GC79 -- too much going
> on here and also in the two houses.
>
> Acutally, I agree with moving to translate new liturgies into the other
> languages.  How awful for people to have to worship without a text...BCP is
> a fine teaching tool and I'm glad it will be made available in several
> other languages of TEC worshipers.  I was astounded to learn that speakers
> of languages other than English were being so blatantly excluded.
>
> As you have explained, this seems like a good compromise.  I especially
> 'love' that we can continue to use '79.  I especially appreciate the
> baptismal service.  Especially this:
> Heavenly Father, we thank you that by water and the Holy
> Spirit you have bestowed upon *these* your servants the
> forgiveness of sin, and have raised *them* to the new life of
> grace. Sustain *them,* O Lord, in your Holy Spirit. Give *them*
> an inquiring and discerning heart, the courage to will and to
> persevere, a spirit to know and to love you, and the gift of joy
> and wonder in all your works. *Amen*.
>
> Chad, thank you for putting the BCP online for us to use.  A true gift.
>
> Ginga
>
> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 7:37 PM Charles Wohlers <chadwohl at satucket.com>
> wrote:
>
> > My reading is, maybe yes, maybe no. So - they may be part of a new Prayer
> > Book, or they may continue to live in alternative services. Remember that
> > another piece of legislation passed which says that same-sex marriage
> > rites
> > had to be available in all dioceses.
> >
> > The only really substantive I see in this legislation is that the 1979
> BCP
> > will remain in effect after a new Prayer Book comes out. That is, both
> may
> > be used, much as is currently the case in Canada and in the C of E. At
> > least, that's the way I read it.
> >
> > Chad Wohlers
> > Woodbury, VT USA
> > chadwohl at satucket.com
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ginga Wilder
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 7:06 PM
> > To: Magdalen
> > Subject: Re: [Magdalen] The latest of Prayer Book Revision
> >
> > John, it is not clear to me from the wording that this 0084 will include
> > same gendered marriage rites.  Can you clarify, please?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ginga Wilder
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 6:23 PM John Robison <friarjohn00 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The HoB sent this piece of substitute legislation to the HoD:
> > >
> > > https://www.vbinder.net/floor_amendments/84?house=hb&lang=en
> > >
> > > The Text:
> > > Floor Amendment 0084 to resolution A068
> > > Proposed by The Rt. Rev. C. Andrew Doyle
> > >
> > > *Resolved, the House of Deputies concurring, That the 79th General
> > > Convention, pursuant to Article X of the Constitution, authorize the
> > > ongoing work of liturgical and Prayer Book revision for the future of
> > God’s
> > > mission through the Episcopal branch of the Jesus movement. And, that
> it
> > > do
> > > so upon the core theological work of loving, liberating, life-giving
> > > reconciliation and creation care; and be it further*
> > >
> > > *Resolved, that our methodology be one of a dynamic process for
> > discerning
> > > common worship, engaging all the baptized, while practicing
> > accountability
> > > to The Episcopal Church; and be it further*
> > >
> > > *Resolved, That the 79th General Convention create a Task Force on
> > > Liturgical and Prayer Book Revision (TFLPBR), the membership of which
> > will
> > > be jointly appointed by the Presiding Bishop and the President of the
> > > House
> > > of Deputies, and will report to the appropriate legislative
> committee(s)
> > > of
> > > the 80th General Convention, ensuring that diverse voices of our church
> > > are
> > > active participants in this liturgical revision by constituting a group
> > > with leaders who represent the expertise, gender, age, theology,
> > regional,
> > > and ethnic diversity of the church, to include, 10 laity, 10 priests or
> > > deacons, and 10 Bishops; and be it further*
> > >
> > > *Resolved, That this Convention memorialize the 1979 Book of Common
> > Prayer
> > > as a Prayer Book of the church preserving the psalter, liturgies, The
> > > Lambeth Quadrilateral, Historic Documents, and Trinitarian Formularies
> > > ensuring its continued use; and be it further*
> > >
> > > *Resolved, That this church continue to engage the deep Baptismal and
> > > Eucharistic theology and practice of the 1979 Prayer Book; and be it
> > > further*
> > >
> > > *Resolved, That bishops engage worshiping communities in
> experimentation
> > > and the creation of alternative texts to offer to the wider church, and
> > > that each diocese be urged to create a liturgical commission to
> collect,
> > > reflect, teach and share these resources with the TFLPBR; and be it
> > > further*
> > >
> > > *Resolved, That the TFLPBR in consultation with the Standing Commission
> > on
> > > Structure, Governance, Constitution and Canons is directed to propose
> to
> > > the 80th General Convention revisions to the Constitution and Canons to
> > > enable The Episcopal Church to be adaptive in its engagement of future
> > > generations of Episcopalians, multiplying, connecting, and
> disseminating
> > > new liturgies for mission, attending to prayer book revision in other
> > > provinces of the Anglican Communion; and be it further*
> > >
> > > *Resolved, That liturgical and Prayer Book revision will continue in
> > > faithful adherence to the historic rites of the Church Universal as
> they
> > > have been received and interpreted within the Anglican tradition of
> 1979
> > > Book of Common Prayer, mindful of our existing ecumenical commitments,
> > > while also providing space for, encouraging the submission of, and
> > > facilitating the perfection of rites that will arise from the continual
> > > movement of the Holy Spirit among us and growing insights of our
> Church;
> > > and be it further*
> > >
> > > *Resolved, That such revision utilize the riches of Holy Scripture and
> > our
> > > Church’s liturgical, cultural, racial, generational, linguistic,
> gender,
> > > physical ability, class and ethnic diversity in order to share common
> > > worship; and be it further*
> > >
> > > *Resolved, That our liturgical revision utilize inclusive and expansive
> > > language and imagery for humanity and divinity; and be it further*
> > >
> > > *Resolved, That our liturgical revision shall incorporate and express
> > > understanding, appreciation, and care of God’s creation; and be it
> > > further*
> > >
> > > *Resolved, That our liturgical revision take into consideration the use
> > of
> > > emerging technologies which provide access to a broad range of
> liturgical
> > > resources; and be it further*
> > >
> > > *Resolved, That the SCLM create a professional dynamic equivalence
> > > translation of The Book of Common Prayer 1979 and the Enriching Our
> > > Worship
> > > Series in Spanish, French, and Haitian Creole; and that the SCLM
> > diversify
> > > the publication formats of new resources, liturgies and rites to
> include
> > > online publishing; and be it further*
> > >
> > > *Resolved, That this church ensure that, at each step of the revision
> > > process, all materials be professionally translated into English,
> > Spanish,
> > > French, and Haitian Creole, following the principles of dynamic
> > > equivalence
> > > and that no new rites or liturgical resources be approved by this
> church
> > > until such translations are secured; and be it further*
> > >
> > > *Resolved, That the TFLPBR shall report to the 80th General Convention;
> > > and
> > > be it further*
> > >
> > > *Resolved*, *That there being $201,000 in the proposed budget for the
> > > translation of liturgical materials, that the Executive Council be
> > > encouraged to identify additional funds in the amount of $200,000 to
> > begin
> > > this liturgical revision.*
> > > This replaces the more troubelsom (to many) A068 with a different
> > process.
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Rev. John R. Robison
> > >
> > > The Old Catholic Church, Provence of the United States.
> > > www.TOCCUSA.org
> > >
> > > "Among the repulsions of atheism for me has been its drastic
> > > uninterestingness as an intellectual position." - John Updike
> > >
> > > "There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's
> life:
> > > The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy
> that
> > > often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes,
> > leading
> > > to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal
> > > with
> > > the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs."  ~John Rogers
> > >
> >
> >
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