I know this thread has, ahem, devolved a bit. But, hey. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRzEciiJesE Priceless. M J (Mike) Logsdon. "Aaugh[.]" -- Charles Brown. "Avoid dull needles and use a soft cloth." -- E Kovacs. "...[My mouth is a] shithole..." -- 45th US President.