[Magdalen] Salve Regina.

Jim Handsfield jhandsfield at att.net
Mon Aug 19 17:14:34 UTC 2019


Revelation, though apocalyptic, is actually about Jewish Christians during the Pax Romana. Only one city survived the Roman Empire once it was razed by the Tenth Legion, and that is Jerusalem. 


Jim Handsfield
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> On Aug 19, 2019, at 2:59 AM, Simon Kershaw <simon at kershaw.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> Whilst I broadly agree with what Roger has written, I'm going to quibble slightly with his last sentence:
> 
> "Revelation seeks to convey a vision of how the history of the world could end."
> 
> Is it? I'd say that Revelation is a piece of Apocalyptic literature. Perhaps it was intended by its writer to say something about the then present state of the Church and world, written in a style which uses language about the future.
> 
> simon
> 
>> On 2019-08-19 10:12, Roger Stokes via Magdalen wrote:
>>> On 19/08/2019 09:57, Simon Kershaw wrote:
>>>> On 2019-08-16 19:22, ME Michaud wrote:
>>>> I saw a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon beneath her feet, and a
>>>> crown of stars on her  head.
>>> And ...?
>>> Only by very belatedly reading back into the text can this been seen as being about Mary.
>> That happens way too often, and in different contexts. Consider the
>> number of times Scripture has been cited as evidence that the world is
>> about to end. Gamaliel's advice to the Sanhedrin and the observation
>> that others before Christ had claimed to be the Messiah so it's best
>> to see how things develop is sage advice. As for the Assumption or
>> Dormition of Mary, that is a story that has a very long history. I
>> would not expect it to be included in the Bible because it would be a
>> side issue to the main purpose of what was written. The Gospels were
>> to recount what Jesus said and did. The Acts, likewise, the history of
>> the Early Church. The Epistles generally were advice to local churches
>> or to individuals. Revelation seeks to convey a vision of how the
>> history of the world could end.
>> Roger
> 
> -- 
> Simon Kershaw
> simon at kershaw.org.uk
> St Ives, Cambridgeshire



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