[Magdalen] Salve Regina.

[Marion Thompson]

Sacred words, God given!  Thus, I suppose, reflecting divine guidance given
to those making the choices.  I dunno.

Marion, a pilgrim



On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 4:56 PM Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com> wrote:

> I’m wondering why a question about who decided which books to include in
> the Bible would be forbidden.
> (I understand why reading Spong would have been controversial!)
>
> Were you just to assume that God had handed down the Bible in one piece?
>
> > On Aug 21, 2019, at 2:03 PM, Marion Thompson <marionwhitevale at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > This brings to mind an encounter I had back in the 90's with our then
> > associate priest.  I had been reading Spong's 'Rescuing the Bible from
> the
> > Fundamentalists' and asked in all innocence who had decided which books
> > should be included in the New Testament.  Whoa!  He went up one side of
> me
> > and down the other, that I should even think of asking such a question!
> > And reading Spong, too!!!!!!!!!! Some years later he had retired to New
> > England somewhere and had jumped ship and joined the ACNA.  He was a mad
> > dog with  a really short fuse if one was the least bit critical of any
> > Republican.  I found out many eyars later than he had opposed the
> proposal
> > that
> >
> >> On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 1:31 PM Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> The "canonical New Testament" as we know it now was not accepted until
> 367
> >> AD, well after the time of Jesus, by which time what you are calling
> >> "legend" (and what we Orthodox call tradition) was pretty firmly
> accepted
> >> by many Christians. Debates over what was and is important continue into
> >> the present day, in light of comparatively recent discovery of ancient
> >> texts (Nag Hammadi, etc.) and re-interpretation of gnostic Gospels. So
> >> there's that.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 5:52 AM Simon Kershaw <simon at kershaw.org.uk>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Fine -- but we should recognize that these are just legends, pious
> >>> legends maybe, but legendary all the same.
> >>>
> >>> Mary's role in the story of Jesus is clear -- she was his mother, who
> >>> gave him birth ad raised him to adulthood. She seems to have not
> >>> entirely agreed with his preaching and healing ministry, but she was
> >>> present at his death.
> >>>
> >>> And that's about it. Everything else is legend and later invention, or
> >>> else was considered so unimportant that it was not recorded in the
> >>> canonical New Testament.
> >>>
> >>> simon
> >>>
> >>>> On 2019-08-19 18:52, ME Michaud wrote:
> >>>> There is also a tradition that she was one of the children set to
> weave
> >>>> the
> >>>> curtain of the temple (the one that was rent when Jesus died). The
> >>>> Gnostic
> >>>> gospels are full of this stuff.
> >>>>
> >>>> In a world where women bore and lost children throughout their lives,
> >>>> the
> >>>> rending of the woven veil is a powerful image.
> >>>>
> >>>> Re: Mary as described in the Book of Revelation, there are probably a
> >>>> thousand images that portray her in this way, medieval, renaissance
> and
> >>>> even pre-raphaelite IIRC.
> >>>> -M
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Simon Kershaw
> >>> simon at kershaw.org.uk
> >>> St Ives, Cambridgeshire
> >>>
> >>
>