[Magdalen] Salve Regina.

[Jay Weigel]

My, what a Protestant you are! ;-) Which is perfectly okay, but do stop
protesting so much.

Per my priest, the Orthodox have never really left the Apocrypha at all.
And I do think think you might read some of the New New Testament for
yourself, instead of dismissing it out of hand.Some of it I do find
questionable, such as The Actos of Paul and Thecla and the Secret
Revelation of John, but the earlier stuff seems to be right on target.

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 4:20 AM Simon Kershaw <simon at kershaw.org.uk> wrote:

> It's true that the canon was not finally established until Nicaea. But
> it wasn't all that fluid beforehand I think. It was pretty well
> established which books were reputable and which weren't. It's pretty
> obvious that some of the NT apocrypha are just pious fiction.
>
> simon
>
> On 2019-08-21 18:31, Jay Weigel wrote:
> > The "canonical New Testament" as we know it now was not accepted until
> > 367
> > AD, well after the time of Jesus, by which time what you are calling
> > "legend" (and what we Orthodox call tradition) was pretty firmly
> > accepted
> > by many Christians. Debates over what was and is important continue
> > into
> > the present day, in light of comparatively recent discovery of ancient
> > texts (Nag Hammadi, etc.) and re-interpretation of gnostic Gospels. So
> > there's that.
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 5:52 AM Simon Kershaw <simon at kershaw.org.uk>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Fine -- but we should recognize that these are just legends, pious
> >> legends maybe, but legendary all the same.
> >>
> >> Mary's role in the story of Jesus is clear -- she was his mother, who
> >> gave him birth ad raised him to adulthood. She seems to have not
> >> entirely agreed with his preaching and healing ministry, but she was
> >> present at his death.
> >>
> >> And that's about it. Everything else is legend and later invention, or
> >> else was considered so unimportant that it was not recorded in the
> >> canonical New Testament.
>
>
> --
> Simon Kershaw
> simon at kershaw.org.uk
> St Ives, Cambridgeshire
>