[Magdalen] Opinion sought

[Judy Fleener]

Interesting that there are no specifics about liturgy except the length.
And all preaching is political.

On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 12:10 AM Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Cady,
> I would hope there would be no assumptions made about the specifics of the
> church; I have intentionally asked for general information about a profile
> I’ve seen recently. I did the same thing on FaceBook. I’ve seen a number of
> profiles and websites recently because we have more than 20 churches in
> search right now. Small churches aren’t getting much help from the diocese.
> Grace
>
> > On May 28, 2019, at 3:57 PM, cady soukup <cadyasoukup at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > It's one of ours, a rural church, not too far from where I live.
> >
> > <sigh>
> >
> > Cady
> > rural Virginia, no further comments
> >
> >> On 5/27/19, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Run. Run very fast. Do not look back. It's a trap, I tell  you, a trap!
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 6:53 PM Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> LOL, Roger! I have a wonderful poster of Bishop Tutu wearing a dashiki,
> >>> with arms outstretched, holding a Good News Bible, and saying exactly
> >>> that:
> >>> “I wonder what Bible are reading, when they say that religion and
> >>> politics
> >>> don’t mix!”
> >>> A friend gave that to me when I left for seminary.
> >>>
> >>>> On May 27, 2019, at 6:08 PM, Roger Stokes via Magdalen <
> >>> magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 27/05/2019 22:24, Grace Cangialosi wrote:
> >>>>> I’m curious about what folks think about a listing I saw recently for
> >>>>> a
> >>> church position. These were the things they were looking for in a
> priest.
> >>> It’s a part-time position in a small rural church.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sermons should be informal, should not be read from notes and should
> >>> not be preached from the pulpit, but from the floor.
> >>>> This makes me think of the Corinthian church as commented on in 1
> >>> Corinthians 3. They want sermons that are easily digestible from their
> >>> friend at the front, not solid teaching to equip them as servants of
> >>> Christ
> >>> proclaiming the Gospel in their daily lives by their actions. I don't
> use
> >>> notes in preaching but I have been doing it for a lot of years. When I
> >>> was
> >>> first ordained I had a full script. I would suggest that preaching
> >>> without
> >>> notes requires either the confidence that comes with experience or
> saying
> >>> the same thing week after week.
> >>>>> Sermons should usually follow the readings.
> >>>> That I can accept - put them in context and give some exegesis as to
> >>> what they meant to the people to whom they were originally addressed
> then
> >>> apply that to the here and now.
> >>>>> Sermons should not be political, nor should the congregation be
> >>> lectured to.
> >>>> Didn't Archbishop Tutu observe that when people criticise clergy for
> >>> preaching politics he wonders what Bible they are reading? Politics is,
> >>> by
> >>> definition, about people and the Church is called to proclaim the Word
> of
> >>> God to the current generation. The Gospel, which includes such things
> as
> >>> care for others and promotion of the good for all people, do have
> >>> political
> >>> implications. these may not be popular with some but they are there.
> >>>>> Sermons should be relevant to people’s lives and should preach the
> >>> Gospel.
> >>>> Doesn't that imply teaching people how the Gospel they say they accept
> >>> should impact on their daily lives?
> >>>>> Priest is not expected to visit, but should get to know parishioners
> >>> and participate in community events the church is involved in. These
> >>> include yard sales, fish fries, other charitable fund-raisers.
> >>>> I admit I am not a fan of routine parish visiting. Visiting should
> have
> >>> a purpose such as allowing soemone to express how they truly feel when
> >>> they
> >>> cannot say that to their friends of long-standing. Much pastoral care
> can
> >>> be exercised by such friends from the church but the priest needs to
> know
> >>> what is happening and have a general overview so they can spot any gaps
> >>> that appear.
> >>>>> There is one one-hour service on Sundays, no Christian education or
> >>> formation.
> >>>>
> >>>> Doesn't that say it all?
> >>>>
> >>>> Roger
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
>


-- 
Judy Fleener, ObJN,SSH
Western Michigan