[Magdalen] TEC talk

[Roger Stokes]

The position was that oversight for the colonies came from the Bishop of 
Fulham back in London. The Scottish Episcopal Church was already 
independent of the Church of England, which also covered Wales. The 
Church of England was (and is) the Established Church but in Scotland 
the (Presbyterian) Church of Scotland is the Established Church. As the 
Established Church all those being ordained had to swear allegiance to 
the British monarch, which Seabury could not do as he was to serve a 
country that had cast off allegiance to the Crown. Since the Scottish 
Episcopal Church did, and does, not have that same relationship to the 
Crown this Oath is not required of those being ordained.

After Seabury's consecration Parliament changed the law so that, in 
appropriate circumstances, the Oath of Allegiance could be dispensed 
with. As a result a few years later White and Provoost could be 
consecrated by the Archbishops of Canterbury and York and the Bishops of 
Bath and Wells and of Peterborough. Madison, #4 in the succession, was 
the last bishop consecrated by the Archbishop of Canterbury for service 
in the United States, assisted on that occasion by the Bishops of 
Rochester and of London.

Roger

On 21/10/2019 03:48, Lynn Ronkainen wrote:
> I thought The Anglican Communion occurred when there became a third entity, across the ocean, that was no longer under complete control of the "Church of England".
> Lynn
>
>> On Oct 20, 2019, at 9:42 PM, Lynn Ronkainen <houstonKLR at gmail.com> wrote:
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> 
>> the* Episcopal
>> Church is the Scottish Episcopal Church, out of which the US church was
>> born, when Bishop Seabury was consecrated right here where I am, in
>
> I know that after the Revolutionary war England could not/would no longer consecrate bishops, from their break-away colony but I thought that Scotland ordained Seabury as a work-around, as it were, for us. I don't recall ever hearing that Seabury's ordination folded American Anglicans into the Scottish Episcopal Church, even briefly.
> Lynn
>
>>> On Oct 20, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Ann Markle <ann.markle at aya.yale.edu> wrote:
>>>
>> the* Episcopal
>> Church is the Scottish Episcopal Church, out of which the US church was
>> born, when Bishop Seabury was consecrated right here where I am, in