[Magdalen] TEC talk

Simon Kershaw simon at kershaw.org.uk
Mon Oct 21 14:57:22 UTC 2019

I'm not sure you are quite right about that, Ferdinand :-)

The Church of Ireland was indeed disestablished and disendowed under the 
terms of the Irish Church Act 1869, and which came into effect on 1 
January 1871).

And prior to that, there had been a United Church of England and 

But that United Church had been created by Article V of the Acts of 
Union 1800. Before that the Church of England and the Church of Ireland 
had been separate sister churches.

So when Samuel Seabury was consecrated in 1784, and the first General 
Convention of the PECUSA took place in 1785, it became the fourth 
national church of what is now the Anglican Communion, as it was only 
some 11 or 12 years later that the England and Ireland were united as a 
single church.


On 2019-10-21 15:29, Ferdinand von Prondzynski (Emeritus) wrote:
> Simon wrote:
> > Actually it was the fourth entity, after the Church of England, the
>> Church of Ireland and the Scottish Episcopal Church.
> Hm, one argues with Simon at one's peril, but the Church of Ireland as
> a separate church only came into being with disestablishment in 1869.
> So when Sam Seabury was consecrated Scotland created the third
> entity... The Church of Ireland in due course was the fourth.
> The Scottish Church cannot claim to have invented the term 'Anglican',
> but nomenclature aside the Communion began at its instigation.

Simon Kershaw
simon at kershaw.org.uk
St Ives, Cambridgeshire

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