[Magdalen] Prayer request

[Ginga Wilder]

>From my pew, this entire debacle comes down to rich white people still
fighting the war for states' rights.  SC is very conservative, which means
our legislature is also very conservative.  The legislature in SC appoints
judges and the appointment to the bench of Judge Dickson is up for renewal
soon.  Rumor has it that he wants to continue as a SC Circuit Court
judge....so, we may well be able to draw a line here as to cause of his
obfuscations in carrying out his duty in the case of the Episcopal schism
in SC.

I believe whatever the issues are with this litigation, SC is still
fighting the Civil War on fronts like this.  The Episcopal Church is a
national institution and a lot more progressive than a great majority of
South Carolinians.  So, it's states' rights v a national church, plus
conservative v progressive.  Sounds a bit like DC today, no?

O Lord, our times are in your hands.  Save us and help us, we humbly pray.
Ginga

On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 8:59 AM Robert Counselman <bob.counselman at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I think that sometimes the courts are reluctant to get involved in disputes
> between church groups and perhaps that is why they either ordered or
> suggested mediation.  Should be interesting to see what happens now that
> the mediation seems to have failed to reach a settlement.
>
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:53 AM Christopher Hart <cervus51 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > So what's with this mediation? Can't the courts just issue an order
> telling
> > the Lawrence group to turn over all property to the rightful ownership?
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 6:40 AM Ginga Wilder <gingawilder at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > You are exactly right, Roger.  Also, I feel sure the Episcopal side was
> > > obstinate...assisted by the recent Federal Court ruling affirming the
> SC
> > > Supreme Court ruling.
> > >
> > > Ginga
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 6:08 AM Roger Stokes via Magdalen <
> > > magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I must admit that I am not surprised by this. Lawrence et al don't
> want
> > > > to admit they are wrong, that they have wasted a lot of money and
> that
> > > > they have misled people by claiming to be the true Church.
> > > >
> > > > Roger
> > > >
> > > > On 27/09/2019 01:31, Ginga Wilder wrote:
> > > > > Well, here's the statement from the mediator.  Ginga
> > > > >
> > > > > Mediation Statement: September 26, 2019
> > > > >
> > > > > 9/26/2019
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Representatives for The Episcopal Church in South Carolina (TECSC),
> > > also
> > > > > known as The Diocese of South Carolina, and The Episcopal Church
> met
> > > > today
> > > > > with representatives of the disassociated diocese for mediation.
> > > > > Confidentiality is key to mediation and no part of the discussion
> may
> > > be
> > > > > disclosed. Following the session today, the following statement was
> > > > > released:
> > > > >
> > > > > *“On July 23, 2019, Judge Dickson ordered the parties to mediate.
> On
> > > > > September 26, 2019, the parties mediated for a full day and
> > ultimately
> > > > the
> > > > > mediator declared an impasse.”*
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.episcopalchurchsc.org/news-blog/mediation-statement-september-26-2019
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 10:36 AM Marion Thompson <
> > > > marionwhitevale at gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> My prayers are with you.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Marion, a pilgrim
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 10:06 AM Lynn Ronkainen <
> > houstonklr at gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Prayers rising this morning.
> > > > >>> Lynn
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Sep 26, 2019, at 8:06 AM, Ginga Wilder <gingawilder at gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Let us pray for resolution in the Episcopal schism in South
> > Carolina.
> > > > >>> Mediation begins this morning.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Lord, have mercy.
> > > > >>> Ginga
> > > > >>>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Christopher Hart
> >
> > List Mail Address: cervus51 at gmail.com
> > Personal Mail: cervus at veritasliberat.net
> > Twitter: @cervus51
> >
>
>
> --
> Fr. Robert L Counselman,
> Retired
>