[Magdalen] memories

[Scott Knitter]

I saw an on-the-street interview from Berlin in which the topic of the day
was what annoys you about Germans (as part of a German language learning
site, Easy German). They expected answers from Germans about Germans, but
an Austrian woman complained about seeing so many Germans without masks in
public places, and she said these maskless ones act like they live on an
"Insel der Heiligen" or "Isle of the Blessed," impervious to any threats
going on around them, and she felt that this is typical German behavior (I
think it's generalizing too much, but it was her opinion). I love that
expression...Isle of the Blessed. I gather it goes back to an early film by
that title.

On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 3:00 PM Don Boyd <thedonboyd at austin.rr.com> wrote:

> Dinosaur that I am, I haven’t learned how to do Zoom but this could  move
> me toward learning as I would very much like to have more time with y’all.
>
> I have pretty much been — is the expression “sheltering in place” since my
> wife Janice died  (nov 2017) except for daily visits from my daughter when
> when she takes me on a sightseeing excursion (I don’t get out of the car).
> These sometimes include a meal (either restaurant window or curbside pickup
> or something she or I have prepared.  Yesterday I left the car and actually
> went inside a restaurant (most tables bearing “sorry, we can’t serve you at
> this table “ signs).
>
> The Texas response in this trump-is-wonderful state has been to deny any
> problem for as long as possible and then to blame Democrats for any
> inconvenience caused by complying with limits mandated in hope of
> minimizing the spread of covid-19.  We’re currently battling over who Can
> vote by mail in primaries, runoffs, and the general election.  Republicans
> want voting by mail prohibited (or at least limited to geezers and active
> duty military) to prevent election fraud; Democrats prefer a mail voting
> option available to everyone who’s eligible to vote and accuse GOP of
> trying to suppress  votes by black and brown citizens who mostly vote
> Democratic.
>
> My, but I do go on.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 15, 2020, at 1:08 PM, Ginga Wilder <gingawilder at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > How about inviting some of our previously faithful listsibs who seem to
> > have dropped off in recent years?  Just a thought.
> > Ginga
> >
> >> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 2:06 PM Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I’d be glad to set it up. I do it twice a week for church and will be
> >> adding a church book discussion group this week.
> >> Being mindful that we’re in different time zones, maybe someone can do
> one
> >> of those survey things to find the best times. Although, zoom meetings
> can
> >> automatically be saved and viewed later. However, the “late” viewers
> >> wouldn’t be able to join the conversation, just view it.
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jun 15, 2020, at 1:23 PM, Christopher Hart <cervus51 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I agree heartily about not publishing the link on Facebook. Terrible
> >> idea.
> >>> A single post to this list would probably be OK, but first there should
> >> be
> >>> a general agreement of when to have a Zoom listmeet. I'm sure that even
> >> in
> >>> this pandemic we all have varying schedules and other matters to which
> we
> >>> are attending.
> >>>
> >>> Grace, if you have a full service account it would be great if you
> could
> >>> facilitate a meeting. I would love to see a bunch of you virtually if
> not
> >>> in person.
> >>>
> >>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 10:11 AM Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com
> >
> >>>> wrote:
> > How about inviting some of our previously faithful listsibs who seem to
> > have dropped off in recent years?  Just a thought.
> > Ginga
> >
> >> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 2:06 PM Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I’d be glad to set it up. I do it twice a week for church and will be
> >> adding a church book discussion group this week.
> >> Being mindful that we’re in different time zones, maybe someone can do
> one
> >> of those survey things to find the best times. Although, zoom meetings
> can
> >> automatically be saved and viewed later. However, the “late” viewers
> >> wouldn’t be able to join the conversation, just view it.
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jun 15, 2020, at 1:23 PM, Christopher Hart <cervus51 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I agree heartily about not publishing the link on Facebook. Terrible
> >> idea.
> >>> A single post to this list would probably be OK, but first there should
> >> be
> >>> a general agreement of when to have a Zoom listmeet. I'm sure that even
> >> in
> >>> this pandemic we all have varying schedules and other matters to which
> we
> >>> are attending.
> >>>
> >>> Grace, if you have a full service account it would be great if you
> could
> >>> facilitate a meeting. I would love to see a bunch of you virtually if
> not
> >>> in person.
> >>>
> >>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 10:11 AM Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com
> >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I have an extended account as an individual—doesn’t have to be a
> >> business.
> >>>> You get unlimited time and as many as 500 people.
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Jun 15, 2020, at 9:51 AM, Marion Thompson <
> >> marionwhitevale at gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Zoom meetings can be longer than 45 minutes or an hour if they have
> >> been
> >>>>> set up with a business account that doesn't limit time.  I haven't
> run
> >>>>> into Zoom bombing, but then I don't worry about such things.  I have
> >>>>> usually just been given a link to click on and off we go.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Marion, a pilgrim
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 8:43 AM Ginga Wilder <gingawilder at gmail.com
> >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Good Shepherd has a weekly bible study via Zoom, and St. Anne's,
> >> Winston
> >>>>>> Salem, NC has several live Zoom gatherings during the week.  We have
> >>>>>> learned at Good Shepherd that the moderator does not need to be the
> >>>> host -
> >>>>>> way too much to be done by one person.  Another important thing is
> >> that
> >>>> we
> >>>>>> would need some guidance in how to attend that also allows everyone
> to
> >>>>>> offer some conversation.  With this the MUTE button is our friend.
> >>>> Because
> >>>>>> if several people are speaking at once, there is interference and
> >>>> static in
> >>>>>> the audio.  It works best if only two attenders are in conversation
> at
> >>>>>> once...Zoom does not make spontaneous chat possible.  I know nothing
> >>>> about
> >>>>>> how to host or how to do cyber stuff, but I am attending our bible
> >> study
> >>>>>> and worshipping with St. Anne's on Sundays.  Zoom bombing can be a
> >>>> problem
> >>>>>> - so I believe it would be important to find a safe way to
> distribute
> >>>> the
> >>>>>> passcode for the meeting.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> My experiences going to Zoom meetings.  I'll leave the rest to those
> >> who
> >>>>>> may set up, host, and moderate the meeting.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ginga
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 8:14 AM Christopher Hart <
> cervus51 at gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> First off, someone has to be able and prepared to host a Zoom
> >> meeting.
> >>>> I
> >>>>>>> have a free Zoom account, but I have never tried to host a
> meeting. I
> >>>> do
> >>>>>>> know that if I were to host three or more persons it would be
> limited
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>> about 40 minutes. I suppose the other most important thing would be
> >> to
> >>>>>> get
> >>>>>>> a sense of collective interest and such a plan and then discuss
> >> finding
> >>>>>> an
> >>>>>>> agreeable date and time.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 7:58 AM Grace Cangialosi <
> gracecan at gmail.com
> >>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I didn’t catch the Zoom part, but I think that would be fun! For
> one
> >>>>>>>> thing, we’d get to put faces to some of the folks we’ve only seen
> in
> >>>>>>> print!
> >>>>>>>> And I guess you could just send an invitation to the whole list.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 15, 2020, at 4:23 AM, Rick Mashburn <
> >> ricklmashburn at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Ginga wrote: Is it time for another listmeet, perhaps via Zoom
> or
> >>>>>> some
> >>>>>>>>> other platform?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I would LOVE doing that!  Zoom is not the way I would like to
> >>>>>> interact
> >>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>> others...but it beats nothing!
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, Rick
> >>>>>>>>> 210-618-5096
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 6:16 PM Ginga Wilder <
> >> gingawilder at gmail.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Yes.  We were there too.  Marion was there and Grace were at
> >>>>>> Georgia's
> >>>>>>>>>> Cathedral service, as were Bill and Esther Williamson, also of
> >>>>>> blessed
> >>>>>>>>>> memory.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Is it time for another listmeet, perhaps via Zoom or some other
> >>>>>>>> platform?
> >>>>>>>>>> Ginga
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 3:07 PM Grace Cangialosi <
> >>>>>> gracecan at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> And we met at the Cathedral for Georgia's service and lunch.
> And
> >> I
> >>>>>>>> think
> >>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>> may have met one other time, as well. It's always been fun
> >> through
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> years to have actual face-to-face meetings with folks! I think
> of
> >>>>>>>> Roland
> >>>>>>>>>>> Orr and Tony "Boom Boom" Hitman, both of blessed memory.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 1:18 PM Ginga Wilder <
> >>>>>> gingawilder at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have loved meeting listsibs in ‘meat life’ so labeled buy
> >> Carol
> >>>>>>>>>> Marsh,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> also passed into larger life.  I met Judy Fleener, Mary Jane
> >>>>>>> Anderson,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Carol, and of course Ann in Crossville, TN at the service of
> >>>>>>>>>> institution
> >>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> her new ministry at St Rafael’s.  Later we spent a Holy Week
> at
> >>>>>> St.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Rafael’s with Ann, both Fleeners , and Ginny Wilder.  Ginny
> was
> >>>>>> just
> >>>>>>>>>>>> beginning her to seriously discern her call to the priesthood.
> >> In
> >>>>>>> June
> >>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2012, the Fleeners and Renee Rutkowski attended her ordination
> >> to
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> priesthood at Old Swede’s, Wilmington, DE.  These alongside
> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> installations of ++KJS & ++Michael Curry as presiding bishops.
> >>>>>> And
> >>>>>>>>>>> several
> >>>>>>>>>>>> others through the years.  Lynn, Molly, Christopher, Eric,
> Cady,
> >>>>>>> Susan
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hagen, Jo, Raewynne, and Georgia.  Of course, blessed Eleanor
> >>>>>> Braun
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Susan Hutchinson.  St Sam’s, St Bede’s and Magdalen have given
> >> me
> >>>>>>> such
> >>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> sense of TEC’s small world and the family that we all are.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I am very grateful.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ginga
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 12:34 PM Judy Fleener <
> >> fleenerj at gmail.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Today I prayed with several different online groups.  At 7 I
> >>>>>>> listened
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the first draft of our rector's sermon. At 8:45 I prayed
> >> Morning
> >>>>>>>>>> Prayer
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> with our congregation, St. Paul's, Muskegon.  At 10:30 I went
> >> to
> >>>>>>> our
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> diocesan site where they do Morning Prayer with the readings
> >> for
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Eucharist.  I wanted to hear our bishop's sermon.  He is away
> >> at
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ordination of the new Bishop of Missouri.  And at 11:15 I
> >>>>>> worshiped
> >>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Trinity Church Wall Street.  I have been spending my Sunday
> >>>>>>> mornings
> >>>>>>>>>>>> there.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This brought to mind a trip to New York with Mary Jane
> Anderson
> >>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> blessed
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> memory.  We met Mary O"Shaughnessy at St. Luke's in the
> Field.
> >>>>>>> With
> >>>>>>>>>>> Jim
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Guthrie, also of blessed memory, and Roy Murphy we ate lunch
> >> and
> >>>>>>>>>>> visited
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> St. Mary the Virgin and St. Thomas.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That led to memories of list meets all over the country.
> What
> >>>>>> fun!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope is a thing with feathers that perches in the soul.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Judy Fleener, ObJN,SSH
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Western Michigan
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>> Grace Cangialosi
> >>>>>>>>>>> Ruckersville, VA
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> *"Not all of us can do great things, but we can do small things
> >>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>> great
> >>>>>>>>>>> love."*
> >>>>>>>>>>> *St. Teresa of Calcutta*
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Christopher Hart
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> List Mail Address: cervus51 at gmail.com
> >>>>>>> Personal Mail: cervus at veritasliberat.net
> >>>>>>> Twitter: @cervus51
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Christopher Hart
> >>>
> >>> List Mail Address: cervus51 at gmail.com
> >>> Personal Mail: cervus at veritasliberat.net
> >>> Twitter: @cervus51
> >>
>
>

-- 
Scott R. Knitter
Edgewater, Chicago, Illinois USA