[Magdalen] Dilemma

[Jay Weigel]

I know there is also online help in Canada because a friend some years ago
had an online therapist. She found it easier than talking face to face and
said it was not that expensive. Here in the US we have betterhelp.com and
talkspace.com. I used betterhelp.com briefly last year and liked my
therapist very much. They do a good job of matching you up. I don't know if
they work in Canada or not but it's worth a try.

On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 7:57 AM ME Michaud <michaudme at gmail.com> wrote:

> Keep at it.
> A physician can negotiate a referral.
> It's always best to get ahead of any health challenge so it doesn't become
> acute.
> And you don't have to live with this level of distress.
> -Margaret
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 10:09 PM Clarissa Canning <canplum at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > thanks , I did contact the local Mental health they turned me down. I
> found
> > another place for an appt . I really needed this break out of my town.
> > While waiting for apt.  Don ‘ t know what kind of decision I will make
> yet.
> >   Being under a roof is better in the winter here in the Canadian Praries
> > even if it’s mine.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 7:15 AM ME Michaud <michaudme at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Clarissa, I don't know where you are (I mean geographically, not
> > > emotionally)
> > > but even the best of your old friends might not be able to give you the
> > > listening ear and the advice you need.
> > >
> > > There are professionals who are really good at this,
> > > people who went into their professions wanting to help,
> > > and who have the training to do the work as it should be done.
> > >
> > > I hope you can find someone to work with you as you go through your
> > current
> > > dilemma.
> > > You deserve it. So do the people you love and who love you.
> > > -Margaret
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 5:59 PM Clarissa Canning <canplum at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >       It is alright to not take my advise , good you got some
> opinions
> > > and
> > > > options.  I ‘d like to share my delimma , living with a big baby who
> > does
> > > > not consult me about buying things.   I am having a hell of a time,
> but
> > > got
> > > > some people to talk to and my anxiety is high .I went totally silent
> > live
> > > > upstairs most of the time. I not so cruel that I stoped helping cook
> > and
> > > > changing ostomy in home er.  why do some guy know how to pick an item
> > > that
> > > > really stabs one in the heart ❤️. Clueless . I will never get an
> > apology
> > > as
> > > > I have a big mouth too many times. I like to say No too many times .
> > > Thank
> > > > God I found an old friend    an am taking a break for a week .
> Almost
> > 45
> > > > years and my choices are not great . Please duck tape me to he wall
> and
> > > put
> > > > tape on the my mouth .  Send $$$ so i can go see my granddaughter in
> > > Japan
> > > > . ( just kidding ) It’s true will never go there .   Pray if you
> wish .
> > > it
> > > > will be a long winter.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 1:30 PM Marion Thompson <
> > > marionwhitevale at gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Be strong and firm, Grace..  You have every right to say 'No'.  You
> > are
> > > > not
> > > > > being selfish.  You are being sensible and responsible where he is
> > not.
> > > > > These are not usual times and you should not be asked to jeopardize
> > > your
> > > > > health,   and, indeed,  your own Church work and the people you mix
> > > with
> > > > as
> > > > > we approach Christmas!
> > > > >
> > > > > Marion, a pilgrim.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 at 11:23, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I know.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:13 AM ME Michaud <michaudme at gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Oh, and as a vaccinated person, you can catch Covid, show no
> > > > symptoms,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > still infect others.
> > > > > > > -M
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 7:12 AM ME Michaud <
> michaudme at gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Besides, tbose pelicans were still chicks (or whatever baby
> > > > pelicans
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > called).
> > > > > > > > -M
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 6:53 AM Grace Cangialosi <
> > > > gracecan at gmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> LOL! I collect pelicans, but no, I don’t plan to emulate
> their
> > > > > > > >> self-sacrifice!
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> > On Nov 29, 2021, at 6:27 AM, ME Michaud <
> > michaudme at gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > Setting limits with children should end when they become
> > > > adults.
> > > > > > > >> > Usually.
> > > > > > > >> > This one sounds like he just threw his rattle on the floor
> > and
> > > > is
> > > > > > > >> watching
> > > > > > > >> > to see if you'll pick it up and return it to him.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > So a big NO on this. You have responsibilities to guard
> your
> > > own
> > > > > > > health
> > > > > > > >> and
> > > > > > > >> > the health of parishoners.
> > > > > > > >> > Unless you're intent on becoming the pelican who shreds
> its
> > > own
> > > > > body
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > >> > feed its young.
> > > > > > > >> > -M
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >> On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 9:14 PM Grace Cangialosi <
> > > > > > gracecan at gmail.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > >> >> Thank you for your input. I consulted my daughter about
> it,
> > > and
> > > > > she
> > > > > > > >> thinks
> > > > > > > >> >> I’m making too much of it. She said if I’m that
> concerned,
> > I
> > > > > might
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > >> want
> > > > > > > >> >> to ervisit her in Florida. But she and the boys are fully
> > > > > > vaccinated,
> > > > > > > >> and
> > > > > > > >> >> if I go inside anywhere, I’ll wear a mask. Plus, I’m
> > driving
> > > > > down,
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > >> >> flying.
> > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > >> >> I’ll just have to bite the bullet and talk to my son
> about
> > it
> > > > > > > tomorrow.
> > > > > > > >> >> It’s not as simple as “my house, my rules;” this may undo
> > our
> > > > > very
> > > > > > > >> fragile
> > > > > > > >> >> new detente. His reasons are political and extend to all
> > > > > > vaccinations
> > > > > > > >> of
> > > > > > > >> >> any kind or any suggestion that he should wear a mask. He
> > > > > wouldn’t
> > > > > > > >> visit
> > > > > > > >> >> his dad in a nursing home because he had to wear a mask.
> > > > > > > >> >> But I am glad for your input—it basically supports my
> > > position.
> > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > >> >>> On Nov 28, 2021, at 4:00 PM, Grace Cangialosi <
> > > > > gracecan at gmail.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> >> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >>>
> > > > > > > >> >>> I had a phone call from my son this morning asking if
> he
> > > > could
> > > > > > > bring
> > > > > > > >> >> the three boys here on a Saturday in December. He has a
> job
> > > and
> > > > > > can’t
> > > > > > > >> bring
> > > > > > > >> >> them. They are 16, 10, and 8. I don’t really have much
> for
> > > them
> > > > > to
> > > > > > do
> > > > > > > >> here,
> > > > > > > >> >> but I figured maybe we could go out for pizza and maybe
> go
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > > > >> community
> > > > > > > >> >> park if it’s not too cold, or to a movie.
> > > > > > > >> >>> But then I remembered that they aren’t vaccinated and
> > won’t
> > > > be.
> > > > > > So I
> > > > > > > >> >> won’t want to take them out for lunch or to a movie. But
> > I’m
> > > > also
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > >> >> terribly comfortable with the idea of having them here in
> > the
> > > > > house
> > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > >> >> day. I left a message with my son that we need to discuss
> > it,
> > > > > but I
> > > > > > > >> haven’t
> > > > > > > >> >> heard back yet. He told me awhile ago that the whole
> family
> > > had
> > > > > > COVID
> > > > > > > >> back
> > > > > > > >> >> at the beginning, so they don’t need the vaccine, but
> I’ve
> > > > heard
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > >> isn’t
> > > > > > > >> >> necessarily true. I know there’s going to be a
> > confrontation
> > > > over
> > > > > > > >> this, and
> > > > > > > >> >> I’d like another opinion or two. Am I overreacting? At
> the
> > > very
> > > > > > > least,
> > > > > > > >> I
> > > > > > > >> >> will insist that they wear masks—he doesn’t believe in
> > those,
> > > > > > either.
> > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Grace Cangialosi
> > > > > > Ruckersville, VA
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * "Service is what prayer looks like when it gets up off its
> knees
> > > and
> > > > > > walks around in the world"*
> > > > > > *                                              Michael J. Graham,
> > SJ*
> > > > > >
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