[Magdalen] Pistorius Trial.
Jay Weigel
jay.weigel at gmail.com
Fri Sep 12 13:29:46 PDT 2014
Check your local library! That's where I got them.
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Oh, I bet that would be fun! I've read a number of those books, but I've
> never listened to them. I kind of hear them when I'm reading, but I'm
> probably hearing the "wrong" African accent!
>
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I hadn't really followed the trial, so I'm not clear on whether the gun
> was
> > already loaded when he picked it up. That would not be uncommon in the
> US,
> > and would not necessarily indicate intent.
> >
> > As to South African and allied accents, I'm a huge fan of the Precious
> > Ramotswe audiobooks as read by South African actress Lisette Lecat.
> > Although they are set in Botwana, the accents must be somewhat similar,
> and
> > she reads them in the African-accented English in which they are written.
> > They're quite wonderful and are easy to understand.
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Sally Davies <sally.davies at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Yes - the accents are very different. However, it seems to be accepted
> in
> > > broadcasting and film media that Americans, in particular, struggle to
> > > understand 'foreign' accents. On the first animated movie that Keith
> > worked
> > > on, Adventures in Zambezia, almost all the original South African cast
> > had
> > > to be replaced with American voices in order to have any hope of an
> > > American release deal.
> > >
> > > We did well out of it, with some great voices including Samuel L.
> > Jackson,
> > > but it pressed the budget past breaking point. So your experience,
> David,
> > > is probably 'par for the course' in the USA.
> > >
> > > Perhaps in countries like the UK, where regional accents vary
> > extensively,
> > > people just get used to following these different accents? To us as
> South
> > > Africans Aussies and New Zealanders sound nothing like us, but when I
> > first
> > > went to the UK people would often enquire whether I came from Down
> Under,
> > > or even from Canada.
> > >
> > > I'm weary of the Oscar trial now but suspect we may not be done with it
> > as
> > > the State is not going to like this verdict. The Director of Public
> > > Prosecutions has been in court which has me wondering if they're going
> to
> > > appeal. I don't like the verdict myself because according to me if
> > someone
> > > loads a gun with that type of ammunition, they're already intending to
> > kill
> > > someone.
> > >
> > > Sally D
> > >
> > > On Friday, 12 September 2014, Cantor03--- via Magdalen <
> > > magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There has been very heavy USA media coverage of this trial
> > > > which seems to have dragged on forever.
> > > >
> > > > Yesterday there were comments during this TV coverage from
> > > > five different South Africans, both black (the judge) and white,
> > > > (including Pistorius).
> > > >
> > > > The judge was only partially comprehensible to me, but I suspect
> > > > that for her, maybe English is a second language (?)
> > > >
> > > > The other four were variably understood by me, probably secondary
> > > > to some very unusual (to me) vowel pronunciation.
> > > >
> > > > I had forgotten that South Africa has its own strong regional accent,
> > > > as I keep lumping South Africans in with Aussies and New Zealanders.
> > > > If these five on the news are any indication, my assumptions are
> > > > obviously simplistic.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > David Strang - Struggling with his own Great Northern Cities Vowel
> > > Shift.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Grace Cangialosi
> Ruckersville, VA
>
> "There are a lot of amazing people out there to be thankful for--
> and a loving God. that's what life is about."
> Robin
> Williams, 1951-2014
>
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