[Magdalen] Pistorius Trial.

Roland Orr roland at orr55.org
Fri Sep 12 15:32:35 PDT 2014


He fired 4 shots not one - so hence the guilty verdict
Roland

On 12/09/2014 18:17, Jay Weigel wrote:
> I hadn't really followed the trial, so I'm not clear on whether the gun was
> already loaded when he picked it up. That would not be uncommon in the US,
> and would not necessarily indicate intent.
>
> As to South African and allied accents, I'm a huge fan of the Precious
> Ramotswe audiobooks as read by South African actress Lisette Lecat.
> Although they are set in Botwana, the accents must be somewhat similar, and
> she reads them in the African-accented English in which they are written.
> They're quite wonderful and are easy to understand.
>
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Sally Davies <sally.davies at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yes - the accents are very different. However, it seems to be accepted in
>> broadcasting and film media that Americans, in particular, struggle to
>> understand 'foreign' accents. On the first animated movie that Keith worked
>> on, Adventures in Zambezia, almost all the original South African cast had
>> to be replaced with American voices in order to have any hope of an
>> American release deal.
>>
>> We did well out of it, with some great voices including Samuel L. Jackson,
>> but it pressed the budget past breaking point. So your experience, David,
>> is probably 'par for the course' in the USA.
>>
>> Perhaps in countries like the UK, where regional accents vary extensively,
>> people just get used to following these different accents? To us as South
>> Africans Aussies and New Zealanders sound nothing like us, but when I first
>> went to the UK people would often enquire whether I came from Down Under,
>> or even from Canada.
>>
>> I'm weary of the Oscar trial now but suspect we may not be done with it as
>> the State is not going to like this verdict. The Director of Public
>> Prosecutions has been in court which has me wondering if they're going to
>> appeal. I don't like the verdict myself because according to me if someone
>> loads a gun with that type of ammunition, they're already intending to kill
>> someone.
>>
>> Sally D
>>
>> On Friday, 12 September 2014, Cantor03--- via Magdalen <
>> magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There has been very heavy USA media coverage of this trial
>>> which seems to have dragged on forever.
>>>
>>> Yesterday there were comments during this TV coverage from
>>> five different South Africans, both black (the judge) and white,
>>> (including Pistorius).
>>>
>>> The judge was only partially comprehensible to me, but I suspect
>>> that for her, maybe English is a second language (?)
>>>
>>> The other four were variably understood by me, probably secondary
>>> to some very unusual (to me) vowel pronunciation.
>>>
>>> I had forgotten that South Africa has its own strong regional accent,
>>> as I keep lumping South Africans in with Aussies and New Zealanders.
>>> If these five on the news are any indication, my assumptions are
>>> obviously simplistic.
>>>
>>>
>>> David Strang - Struggling with his own Great Northern Cities Vowel
>> Shift.
>>>



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