[Magdalen] How do you buy a stove?

Sun Aug 2 20:03:15 UTC 2015

I haven't had a wall oven since 1962 in our new-build.  Who wants to 
lift a 20 lb turkey over their head to put it in the oven?  Not me, 
thank you very much.  I'm with the idiots.  Reminds me of the Flanders & 
Swan song with the eye-level grill so the hot fat can go straight into 
your eye.

Marion, a pilgrim

On 8/1/2015 5:15 PM, Jay Weigel wrote:
> I was terribly spoiled by having a wall oven for many years. Now I'm back
> to a regular stove with a front opening oven and I wonder what idiot
> thought those were a good idea.
>
> On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Charles Wohlers <charles.wohlers at verizon.net
>> wrote:
>> No natural gas anywhere in Vermont other than the Burlington area. *Lots*
>> of people use propane.
>>
>> Chad Wohlers
>> East Bridgewater, MA USA
>> chadwohl at satucket.com
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Jay Weigel
>> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 4:55 PM
>> To: magdalen at herberthouse.org
>> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] How do you buy a stove?
>>
>> I *hate* my glass cooktop stove and would cheerfully go back to the other
>> kind of electric, or to gas. However, the stove came with the house (and
>> with S/O) so I deal with it and try not to curse it too loudly. There isn't
>> a prayer of getting a natural gas pipeline up here and S/O does not want to
>> deal with propane, so there we are.
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Lynn, is your propane tank inside or outside? If it's outside, there
>>> shouldn't be a problem; if it's inside, check with the propane company to
>>> see if you can hook a stove up to it. The stove needs some kind of
>>> modification to use propane rather than natural gas, but it's easy to have
>>> that done before it's delivered.
>>>
>>> On August 1, 2015, at 3:23 PM, Lynn Ronkainen <houstonklr at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Gas is my favorite..... can't  have it where I live as there are no gas
>>> lines running into condo community AND using propane from my 'storage
>>> area'
>>> located exactly next to the back side of the kitchen is most probably a
>>> no-no.
>>> L
>>>
>>> website: www.ichthysdesigns.com
>>>
>>> When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have not
>>> a
>>> single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave me."
>>> attributed to Erma Bombeck
>>>   "Either Freedom for all or stop talking about Freedom at all" from a talk
>>> by Richard Rohr
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Charles Wohlers" <charles.wohlers at verizon.net>
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 1:46 PM
>>> To: <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] How do you buy a stove?
>>>
>>>> Our house in Vermont came with the kind of stove that Lynn describes I
>>>> completely agree with what she says. It probably looked really nice when
>>>> new, but, it's impossible to clean thoroughly, takes a long time to heat
>>>> up (& cool down), and non-flat pots don't work so well. Oh, yes, the big
>>>> pot one uses for canning jam takes f-o-e-v-e-r to heat up to boiling.
>>> Down
>>>> here in Mass. we have an old gas stove, and it's infinitely superior,
>>> even
>>>> tho it doesn't look quite so nice.
>>>>
>>>> We once visited Judith Jones, Julia Child's editor and a big cook in her
>>>> own right, who has a summer place near us in VT. She has an old gas >
>>> stove
>>>> running off a big propane tank buried in the ground outside. She knows
>>>> what she's doing.
>>>>
>>>> Chad Wohlers
>>>> East Bridgewater, MA USA
>>>> chadwohl at satucket.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Lynn Ronkainen
>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 2:29 PM
>>>> To: magdalen at herberthouse.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] How do you buy a stove?
>>>>
>>>> Look carefully Susan - most all of the electric stoves today have the
>>>> smooth
>>>> glass top. I am an avid cook and I do not like mine (it was brand new
>>> when
>>>> I
>>>> moved into my condo)... slow to heat up, easily stained by high sugar or
>>>> high acid (think spag sauce) items that could never be removed with the
>>>> 'polish' that you have to buy to clean it. This happened to me 6 months
>>>> into
>>>> using it - finally had to resort to 'not recommended' ways of removing
>>>> damage, which made it more susceptible to continued damage. Also not
>>>> supposed to use cast iron on it, AND if your pots are not totally smooth
>>>> on
>>>> the bottom, the lack of complete 'contact' with the heated surface may
>>>> cause
>>>> the heat to go on and off....the only thing I like about the stove is >
>>> the
>>>> 'theoretically' easy to clean surface, but mine, after 8 years looks >
>>> like
>>>> it's been through the wars...
>>>>
>>>> If you are a baker/oven user more than a stove top user, or have no
>>>> unusual
>>>> needs for stove top (jam making, cast iron searing, large pots cooking
>>>> large
>>>> batches of tomato sauce...) the smooth glass top might suit your needs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have failed to find a high quality electric stove with the coil >
>>> burners
>>>> at
>>>> any of the 'big box' stores like Best Buy, my usual go-to place for
>>>> appliances.
>>>>
>>>> Lynn
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> website: www.ichthysdesigns.com
>>>>
>>>> When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have
>>> not
>>>> a
>>>> single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave >
>>> me."
>>>> attributed to Erma Bombeck
>>>> "Either Freedom for all or stop talking about Freedom at all" from a >
>>> talk
>>>> by Richard Rohr
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Jay Weigel" <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 11:59 AM
>>>> To: <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] How do you buy a stove?
>>>>
>>>>> You look at the ratings online first, and check the various forums.
>>>>> That's
>>>>> what we did when buying our dishwasher.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Susan Hagen <susanvhagen at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My electric oven quit on me the night before I left on vacation.  It
>>> was
>>>>>> old when I moved in this house 15 years ago, I've replaced stove top
>>>>>> elements several times and I don't want to spend any more money on it.
>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>> headed out to look at what's on the market.  I don't even know what
>>>>>> questions to ask.  How do you buy a stovetop/oven combo these days?
>>>>>> I'll
>>>>>> try Best Buy and Lowes I guess.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Susan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Before enlightenment pay bills, do laundry.  After enlightenment pay
>>>>>> bills,
>>>>>> do laundry.
>>>>>>
>>>